"In an unexpected twist, patients who knew prayers were being said for them had more complications after surgery than those who did not know, researchers reported Thursday.
The complications were minor, and doctors surmised that they could have been caused by the increased stress on patients worried that their conditions were so bad they needed prayers."
I've also heard the hypothesis that people felt that they should be getting better due to the prayer, but were perhaps not/as quickly, and so felt stressed, causing worse outcomes. Like a kind of religion-centered performance anxiety.
My random theory: people who have prayers said for them tend to be of more conservative families and generally less educated when it comes to things like nutritional science. Thus these people going in just tend to be starting at a worse baseline.
There's probably some truth to that. I had a fundie friend who believed heavily in the "God knows the number of your days" thing and knew what doctors recommended, but still ate three-pound triple burgers with cheese and tons of fried food. "God knows the number of my days. He'll take care of me, because I trust him," he would say. He had a heart attack a few years ago and now lives with permanent heart disease.
Religious fundamentalism makes people do and believe really stupid things.
Man I grew up in it and I still don't understand how people can go through adulthood with the cognitive dissonance that is recognizing Santa isn't real and to think otherwise is absursa, but their God of thousands to exist does.
That we can't widely accept a foundation of logic that builds our belief set means we have a lot to learn as a species.
I concur. We should help them by posting stuff about 24 hours of prayer things. You know. To get every one to do their part.
I hope the left begins astroturfing conservative social circles with things like, "The election is rigged anyway, so I'm not voting!"
Payback for years of doing it to us.
if they can keep their hands praying, those people are prevented from doing anything actually constructive.
religion is slavery
This is the best summary I could come up with:
On a cold night in November, a man named Jefferson Davis addressed a crowd of conservative activists gathered in an American Legion hall 20 miles north of Milwaukee.
Davis was speaking at an event organized by Patriots of Ozaukee County, a rightwing group that vows to “combat the forces that threaten our safety, prosperity and freedoms” and compares itself to the musket-toting Minutemen of the revolutionary war.
Attendees at November’s meeting were unsurprised by the packed house: closer to 200 had attended the Ozaukee group’s last event in October, which featured a long lineup of speakers including Davis.
That event, which included free beer and a gun raffle and was promoted by patriot groups, illustrated the common cause the movement’s activists have found with the grassroots of the GOP.
One bill, passed by the legislature and vetoed by the Democratic governor, Tony Evers, in 2022, would have made it harder for people to qualify as “indefinitely confined”, a status disabled voters can claim to receive an absentee ballot.
During his November presentation in Grafton, Davis handed out a pamphlet listing 53 issues that voters concerned about election security should focus on in Wisconsin.
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Christofascism is so hot right now; these people are enemies of the United States, they want to destroy it and replace it with a theocracy.
I, for one, hope they spend as much of Tuesday as possible praying. If they're too busy praying to vote, so much the better.
Going off of how prayer "worked" in hospitals (i.e. it generally caused worse health outcomes), I say they should pray as hard as they can!
Wait… is this true?
Yup:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-mar-31-sci-prayer31-story.html
"In an unexpected twist, patients who knew prayers were being said for them had more complications after surgery than those who did not know, researchers reported Thursday.
The complications were minor, and doctors surmised that they could have been caused by the increased stress on patients worried that their conditions were so bad they needed prayers."
I've also heard the hypothesis that people felt that they should be getting better due to the prayer, but were perhaps not/as quickly, and so felt stressed, causing worse outcomes. Like a kind of religion-centered performance anxiety.
My random theory: people who have prayers said for them tend to be of more conservative families and generally less educated when it comes to things like nutritional science. Thus these people going in just tend to be starting at a worse baseline.
There's probably some truth to that. I had a fundie friend who believed heavily in the "God knows the number of your days" thing and knew what doctors recommended, but still ate three-pound triple burgers with cheese and tons of fried food. "God knows the number of my days. He'll take care of me, because I trust him," he would say. He had a heart attack a few years ago and now lives with permanent heart disease.
Religious fundamentalism makes people do and believe really stupid things.
Man I grew up in it and I still don't understand how people can go through adulthood with the cognitive dissonance that is recognizing Santa isn't real and to think otherwise is absursa, but their God of thousands to exist does.
That we can't widely accept a foundation of logic that builds our belief set means we have a lot to learn as a species.
I concur. We should help them by posting stuff about 24 hours of prayer things. You know. To get every one to do their part.
I hope the left begins astroturfing conservative social circles with things like, "The election is rigged anyway, so I'm not voting!"
Payback for years of doing it to us.
if they can keep their hands praying, those people are prevented from doing anything actually constructive.
religion is slavery
This is the best summary I could come up with:
On a cold night in November, a man named Jefferson Davis addressed a crowd of conservative activists gathered in an American Legion hall 20 miles north of Milwaukee.
Davis was speaking at an event organized by Patriots of Ozaukee County, a rightwing group that vows to “combat the forces that threaten our safety, prosperity and freedoms” and compares itself to the musket-toting Minutemen of the revolutionary war.
Attendees at November’s meeting were unsurprised by the packed house: closer to 200 had attended the Ozaukee group’s last event in October, which featured a long lineup of speakers including Davis.
That event, which included free beer and a gun raffle and was promoted by patriot groups, illustrated the common cause the movement’s activists have found with the grassroots of the GOP.
One bill, passed by the legislature and vetoed by the Democratic governor, Tony Evers, in 2022, would have made it harder for people to qualify as “indefinitely confined”, a status disabled voters can claim to receive an absentee ballot.
During his November presentation in Grafton, Davis handed out a pamphlet listing 53 issues that voters concerned about election security should focus on in Wisconsin.
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