Sharing the last Anark Abridged from our compañero 😀
The biggest challenge for an anarchist system of power is survival, and not being overthrown by a competing hierarchical system.
Creating a new anarchist system in a world that has other hierarchical power systems becomes exponentially more difficult the more hierarchical power systems there are surrounding it: as he mentions, hierarchical power systems tend to cooperate to create more concentrated bases of power. The easiest targets for creating concentrated power is where there currently isn't concentrated power, so hierarchical power systems tend to target them first.
Fighting those structures and keeping the new society together will surely be the biggest challenge once it begins.
Still, figuring that out is part of the puzzle. There are some ideas from historical movements and checking today's still living libertarian socialism movements. If something is for sure, figuring that out will require a lot of mental power, research, and creativity from the movement.
It's a good thing we live in the internet era. 🤜🤛
Simplistic.
Anarchists pretend that no-archy is both good & workable.
No-archy, within your body, is called metastasized-cancer.
Having bone-cells growing anywhere-they-want, is no-archy.
Having bone-cells growing ONLY where they are supposed to be, is archy.
Same with every kind of cells.
Whenever police-services of whatever kind is removed from a civilization, organized-crime becomes the police.
"Nature abhors a vacuum.", automatically demonstrates its inevitability.
Try un-corrupting Northern Mexico, now, after the drug-cartels became the real government of that territory.
The hierarchy within your body, with the 4 brains running everything...
cortex / human-brain, capable of considered-reasoning
brainstem / lizard, in charge of the mechanics of the 5 F's: feeding, freezing, fleeing, fighting, & mating
nervous-system of the gut / worm brain.
One's gut-biome modifies the funciton of the nervous-system, significantly, too.
But anybody who denies that hierarchy is intrinsic to evolved-intelligence, is incompetent.
Anybody who denies that hierarchy is intrinsic to the human-advantage of considered-reasoning, produced by the cortex, is incompetent.
Just letting all the organs in one's body decide "by consensus" what to do, blotting-out one's human-brain, wouldn't produce human meaning, it'd instead produce porridge's meaning.
The same is true in civilization.
You cannot have people incompetent in science doing science...
You cannot have people incompetent in managing doing managing...
You cannot have people incompetent in teaching doing teaching...
...without anti-strategic consequences conquering the civilization ( exactly what all countries among our world, at the moment, have done ).
This Anark posits that hierarchy itself is the problem.
OK, so his brain, at the top of the hierarchy within his organs-system, within his body, holds taht hierarchy itself is the wrong answer.
Do you see the narcissistic "different rules for internally vs for externally, different rules for me vs for you" scam that politically-motivateds pull, relentlessly?
Hierarchy itself isn't the problem.
The problem is the rewards-system embodied in particular hierarchies.
Given that corruption is normal & pervasive in human-nature, the ONLY method for breaking corruption's rule of our world is .. FLOSS doing the managing.
Make the eligibility for authority be removed by being of the narcissism/machiavellianism/sociopathy-psychopathy/nihilism/sadism/systemic-dishonesty hexad.
Make the eligibility for authority be contingent on one's responsibility.
Make it so that authority cannot be gained politically, but instead only through tested merit.
I'm not talking about politically-highjacked "meritocracy" which always devolves down to privilege-archy, I'm talking about guaranteed-healthy-level-playing-field where education works properly, and cannot be highjacked, where adequate-nutrition is guaranteed to all students & children, where people as part of their educational development are got as competent as possible ( not as dumbed-down & turned-into-steers, as our "education" institution is oriented to doing: "the only manipulable child is a broken & insecure child", as John Taylor Gatto, the NY State Teacher of the Year award winner, pointed-out )...
I'm talking a kind of education where each student is brought up to their rightful capability, no matter what "grade" that is, for that subject, so you could have a 12yo learning calculus in 1 session then learning basic-English in another, instead of dumbing-down everybody to the institutionally-enforced lowest-common-denominator...
( fundamentally the communist concept of "education", which is regimented mass force-feeding is evil, as it runs-over the GodGivenPotential in nearly-all of the students' lives, manufacturing aversion-to-learning, in place of the hunger-for-understanding that had been born into kids )
You boost up LivingPotential, and as people reach the more-competent levels, you challenge 'em more, & test 'em more...
and you prevent the people who have the wrong character, the wrong nature, from having authority, systematically.
THAT is missing from all political-systems in our world.
Politics intends that narcissism/machiavellianism/sociopathy-psychopathy/nihilism/sadism/systemic-dishonesty have exclusive-rights/authority, and uses every means possible, to gain that highjacking.
Break political-motivation from authority of any kind.
ONLY THEN will it be possible to discover what having a "healthy brain, healthy heart, healthy bones, & healthy muscles" means, for any civilization.
Anyways, downvote me to hell, for not parroting accepted-dogma.
Hierarchy is required both within one's body & within any effective civilization.
Corrupt-VALUES make it impossible for a hierarchy to produce uncorrupt results, but corrupt-values are not God-given, not Universe-predetermined, they are indulged-in by our kind.
Ruthless objectivity & ruthless integrity can, if held-to, break that from our social-momentum, for a portion of humankind, IF that portion has the spine to earn it.
Otherwise, The Great Filter will just keep escalating, until our rampaging ignorance has force-extinguished all humankind, later this century.
_ /\ _
For anyone else spotting this ...incredibly long rant, I'll counter by simply pointing out that multicellular organisms are altruistic collectives of individual cells which survive best when all constituent parts cooperate. There is no central authority in any biological system. All parts simply communicate and process in extremely complex ways which defy hierarchal categorization.
Cancer on the other hand is a breaking of that altruism and excessive hoarding of resources to the point where it self destructs the hosting system that was letting it survive at all.
This individual's unique understanding of "four brains" isn't accurate nor detailed with how biological systems work, humans or otherwise, and fails to address the simple counter example of "what about plants though" or any other myriad of other counter examples.
Even non multicellular organisms often benefit from and perform rather incredible acts of altruism, and do so all on their own accord, nobody "above" organizing the process.
Cheers folks.
There is a lot that is oversimplified and a lot that is just plain wrong about hierarchy and anarchy (and certainly biology) in this rant, but just looking at the sheer amount of effort it'd take to respond to this was too daunting for me.
Thank you for taking the time to write this comment.
I ain't reading all that. But I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened to you
I would generally agree on the idea that “corruption” isn’t really real, and that bad outcomes from poor or malicious leadership are the result of systemic failures, not individuals not being good enough.
I would, however, disagree with the notion that the problem is that people who break the rules of a system will inevitably win against those upholding the rules of the system. I reject the notion that there are real rules that can be broken, there may be a set of rules written down that people are told to fallow or else but that is not what is actually influencing people’s decisions, at least not directly. Instead there is a set of incentives and perceptions, If a set of perceptions and incentives create a bad outcome, then those are what need to be changed.
Simply eliminating these systems that allow for concentration of power won’t solve the issue ether, as new systems will come into existence that will fill the power vacuum left behind.
I agree that external and internal motivators are essential to change behavior. And to support your point, that's part of why anarchists who join social movements try to foster the use of social force and self-managed organization to serve as "revolutionary gymnastics." The idea is to help others gain confidence in their ability to change the world by changing their social and economic circumstances via political conflict. It is easier to foster a culture and politics of mutual aid when it works!
Also, the issue with the power vacuum is super important to cover. Anark has already covered that in a video. Based on the movement's history, the horizontal armed forces work, but working towards the social insertion and weaponry necessary to cover that area is challenging. If not the most difficult part.
In the sense of rules, I don't know where that topic is covered in English in the sense of anarchy perspective to the law. Do you have anything that covers that topic? So far I've found the work of Anarquismo frente al derecho that covers the concept of contracts vs law and the historical perspectives of the classics. It throws some topic of "anarchism and justice".
The biggest challenge for an anarchist system of power is survival, and not being overthrown by a competing hierarchical system.
Creating a new anarchist system in a world that has other hierarchical power systems becomes exponentially more difficult the more hierarchical power systems there are surrounding it: as he mentions, hierarchical power systems tend to cooperate to create more concentrated bases of power. The easiest targets for creating concentrated power is where there currently isn't concentrated power, so hierarchical power systems tend to target them first.
Fighting those structures and keeping the new society together will surely be the biggest challenge once it begins.
Still, figuring that out is part of the puzzle. There are some ideas from historical movements and checking today's still living libertarian socialism movements. If something is for sure, figuring that out will require a lot of mental power, research, and creativity from the movement.
It's a good thing we live in the internet era. 🤜🤛
Simplistic.
Anarchists pretend that no-archy is both good & workable.
No-archy, within your body, is called metastasized-cancer.
Having bone-cells growing anywhere-they-want, is no-archy.
Having bone-cells growing ONLY where they are supposed to be, is archy.
Same with every kind of cells.
Whenever police-services of whatever kind is removed from a civilization, organized-crime becomes the police.
"Nature abhors a vacuum.", automatically demonstrates its inevitability.
Try un-corrupting Northern Mexico, now, after the drug-cartels became the real government of that territory.
The hierarchy within your body, with the 4 brains running everything...
One's gut-biome modifies the funciton of the nervous-system, significantly, too.
But anybody who denies that hierarchy is intrinsic to evolved-intelligence, is incompetent.
Anybody who denies that hierarchy is intrinsic to the human-advantage of considered-reasoning, produced by the cortex, is incompetent.
Just letting all the organs in one's body decide "by consensus" what to do, blotting-out one's human-brain, wouldn't produce human meaning, it'd instead produce porridge's meaning.
The same is true in civilization.
You cannot have people incompetent in science doing science...
You cannot have people incompetent in managing doing managing...
You cannot have people incompetent in teaching doing teaching...
...without anti-strategic consequences conquering the civilization ( exactly what all countries among our world, at the moment, have done ).
This Anark posits that hierarchy itself is the problem.
OK, so his brain, at the top of the hierarchy within his organs-system, within his body, holds taht hierarchy itself is the wrong answer.
Do you see the narcissistic "different rules for internally vs for externally, different rules for me vs for you" scam that politically-motivateds pull, relentlessly?
Hierarchy itself isn't the problem.
The problem is the rewards-system embodied in particular hierarchies.
Given that corruption is normal & pervasive in human-nature, the ONLY method for breaking corruption's rule of our world is .. FLOSS doing the managing.
Make the eligibility for authority be removed by being of the narcissism/machiavellianism/sociopathy-psychopathy/nihilism/sadism/systemic-dishonesty hexad.
Make the eligibility for authority be contingent on one's responsibility.
Make it so that authority cannot be gained politically, but instead only through tested merit.
I'm not talking about politically-highjacked "meritocracy" which always devolves down to privilege-archy, I'm talking about guaranteed-healthy-level-playing-field where education works properly, and cannot be highjacked, where adequate-nutrition is guaranteed to all students & children, where people as part of their educational development are got as competent as possible ( not as dumbed-down & turned-into-steers, as our "education" institution is oriented to doing: "the only manipulable child is a broken & insecure child", as John Taylor Gatto, the NY State Teacher of the Year award winner, pointed-out )...
I'm talking a kind of education where each student is brought up to their rightful capability, no matter what "grade" that is, for that subject, so you could have a 12yo learning calculus in 1 session then learning basic-English in another, instead of dumbing-down everybody to the institutionally-enforced lowest-common-denominator...
( fundamentally the communist concept of "education", which is regimented mass force-feeding is evil, as it runs-over the GodGivenPotential in nearly-all of the students' lives, manufacturing aversion-to-learning, in place of the hunger-for-understanding that had been born into kids )
You boost up LivingPotential, and as people reach the more-competent levels, you challenge 'em more, & test 'em more...
and you prevent the people who have the wrong character, the wrong nature, from having authority, systematically.
THAT is missing from all political-systems in our world.
Politics intends that narcissism/machiavellianism/sociopathy-psychopathy/nihilism/sadism/systemic-dishonesty have exclusive-rights/authority, and uses every means possible, to gain that highjacking.
Break political-motivation from authority of any kind.
ONLY THEN will it be possible to discover what having a "healthy brain, healthy heart, healthy bones, & healthy muscles" means, for any civilization.
Anyways, downvote me to hell, for not parroting accepted-dogma.
Hierarchy is required both within one's body & within any effective civilization.
Corrupt-VALUES make it impossible for a hierarchy to produce uncorrupt results, but corrupt-values are not God-given, not Universe-predetermined, they are indulged-in by our kind.
Ruthless objectivity & ruthless integrity can, if held-to, break that from our social-momentum, for a portion of humankind, IF that portion has the spine to earn it.
Otherwise, The Great Filter will just keep escalating, until our rampaging ignorance has force-extinguished all humankind, later this century.
_ /\ _
For anyone else spotting this ...incredibly long rant, I'll counter by simply pointing out that multicellular organisms are altruistic collectives of individual cells which survive best when all constituent parts cooperate. There is no central authority in any biological system. All parts simply communicate and process in extremely complex ways which defy hierarchal categorization.
Cancer on the other hand is a breaking of that altruism and excessive hoarding of resources to the point where it self destructs the hosting system that was letting it survive at all.
This individual's unique understanding of "four brains" isn't accurate nor detailed with how biological systems work, humans or otherwise, and fails to address the simple counter example of "what about plants though" or any other myriad of other counter examples.
Even non multicellular organisms often benefit from and perform rather incredible acts of altruism, and do so all on their own accord, nobody "above" organizing the process.
Cheers folks.
There is a lot that is oversimplified and a lot that is just plain wrong about hierarchy and anarchy (and certainly biology) in this rant, but just looking at the sheer amount of effort it'd take to respond to this was too daunting for me.
Thank you for taking the time to write this comment.
I ain't reading all that. But I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened to you
I would generally agree on the idea that “corruption” isn’t really real, and that bad outcomes from poor or malicious leadership are the result of systemic failures, not individuals not being good enough.
I would, however, disagree with the notion that the problem is that people who break the rules of a system will inevitably win against those upholding the rules of the system. I reject the notion that there are real rules that can be broken, there may be a set of rules written down that people are told to fallow or else but that is not what is actually influencing people’s decisions, at least not directly. Instead there is a set of incentives and perceptions, If a set of perceptions and incentives create a bad outcome, then those are what need to be changed.
Simply eliminating these systems that allow for concentration of power won’t solve the issue ether, as new systems will come into existence that will fill the power vacuum left behind.
I agree that external and internal motivators are essential to change behavior. And to support your point, that's part of why anarchists who join social movements try to foster the use of social force and self-managed organization to serve as "revolutionary gymnastics." The idea is to help others gain confidence in their ability to change the world by changing their social and economic circumstances via political conflict. It is easier to foster a culture and politics of mutual aid when it works!
Also, the issue with the power vacuum is super important to cover. Anark has already covered that in a video. Based on the movement's history, the horizontal armed forces work, but working towards the social insertion and weaponry necessary to cover that area is challenging. If not the most difficult part.
In the sense of rules, I don't know where that topic is covered in English in the sense of anarchy perspective to the law. Do you have anything that covers that topic? So far I've found the work of Anarquismo frente al derecho that covers the concept of contracts vs law and the historical perspectives of the classics. It throws some topic of "anarchism and justice".
Take care friend 👋