Really missing a true "save" ability for posts and comments on kbin

frasassi@kbin.social to /kbin meta@kbin.social – 1 points –

I am aware that upvoted posts make it to https://kbin.social/fav however that just doesn't work well as I already have 1,000+ pages in there. Moreover, that only registers upvoted posts and not comments. A workaround would be to just use boost, and only upvote when you want to "save" but that is just not conventional imho. The ability on /r to simply save a comment or a post is truly basic but effective.

@Ernest

EDIT: Relevant Codeberg issue

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Hell yes!
Hope it happens.

When I first started here, the reputation score was still calculated only on the boosts you had received and didn't take any upvotes you receive into account.

Within two weeks, ernest had that changed based on our feedback. I have full faith that he'll get a save function in place as well. Just give him some time; he said he was taking a break from the task list to focus on stability for a minute with the huge use growth happening right now.

Also, buy the man a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

Yeah honestly I'd like for upvotes, boosts and saves to actually work in more conventional ways we're used to in other social media, instead of this weird "boost is actually an upvote but it's also a retweet" and "upvote does nothing but actually saves it to your profile"

The recent updates have already made it work as you expect. Upvotes are upvotes. Boosts are still boosts but are also counted as being worth 2 votes.

Worth noting this is only for reputation.

The sorting algorithm still doesn't consider upvotes.

Edit, my post here was wrong @Pamasich appears to be correct, having checked the "top" sort order of /all I have concluded that it is according to Boosts less Downvotes, upvotes do indeed seem to be ignored.

For the record and to maintain the coherence of the message chain below this one, my previous post:
This isn't true. Top and hot work according to [upvotes plus boostsx2 less downvotes] same as reputation. This is easily proved by sorting by top and noting sometimes they are not in order of most boosts.
Sorting was actually made to work this way long before reputation was changed to match.

If I look at the top posts on /all/:

  1. Total 1958 | Upvotes 711 | Downvotes 43 | Boosts 645 | Link
  2. Total 1408 | Upvotes 608 | Downvotes 20 | Boosts 410 | Link
  3. Total 2062 | Upvotes 1274 | Downvotes 16 | Boosts 402 | Link
  4. Total 2198 | Upvotes 1568 | Downvotes 2 | Boosts 316 | Link

Formula for total I'm using is boosts * 2 + upvotes - downvotes.

Really doesn't look to me like that's what it uses.

Though, now that you mentioned it, I do notice that rarely the posts aren't in order of boosts. Maybe the sorting algorithm uses an entirely different formula? Boosts do seem to be mostly responsible though, judging by what I see on /all/.

I was mostly going by what Ernest posted on codeburg four weeks ago.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/80
I'll admit that other than noting by eye

  1. It's not purely boosts; and
  2. It is mostly boosts (as you say)

I've not actually tried making a spreadsheet to check the algorithm (...yet!)

Edit: looking at /all perhaps for articles the number of comments is counted too somehow?

Edit2: If you formatted your table as a code snippet it would probably work since it would use a fixed-width font.