btaf45

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Like I'm talking to a dumbass.

DE 54, at 36:22-24

Link? The only way for people to know if you are taking things out of context is to provide a link.

political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles...the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.

So it is exactly like I told you. No court would allow the Executive Committee to disregard the charter, let alone purge the DNC membership of the newly elected delegates.

Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of “impartiality and evenhandedness” as a mere political promise

This is a judge characterizing something. There are no quotes from the DNC's hired lawyer, let alone from an actual former DNC member, let alone from a current DNC member. You need to provide an actual quote from an actual DNC member before we can judge this claim accurately.

Wasserman Schultz

She's not even there no more. She is not "the DNC".

That’s the party’s position

It's not the "party's position", and certainly not anything they could legally do. All you have provided is a judge's characterization of a former members characterization who wasn't there to give any testimony and which was completely rejected by the judge. We haven't seen any actual quotes of any actual current or former members of the DNC executive committee.

If the judge said that a DNC member could not break the law on some trivial thing why the hell would you think the legal system would allow the current DNC to reject a fundamental rule that the newly elected delegates ARE ALREADY MEMBERS OF THE DNC and can not be arbitrarily purged? The DNC members legally controls who the executive committee members are (and will do so at the convention). You are asserting the exact opposite is true. The executive committee does not have the legal right to remove members of the DNC. You have things 100% backwards. Bernie Sanders would personally explain that to you if you had a chance to talk to him.

Dunno are you an elder abuser?

How utterly convenient from the party whose rules are discretionary when they want to fuck over progressives.

The rules are hardcoded in the charter. The DNC never violated the party charter. Bernie Sanders number of delegates were 100% determined by the votes he got from people like me. I've never heard Bernie Sanders repeating your nonsense. Why the f*ck would I believe a random dunning kruger over Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders is way smarter than you are and he never lies.

I read the transcripts correctly.

Then provide the exact reference so I can tell you where your wrong. Show me the exact evidence where a lawyer says "my employers hereby reserve the right to ignore their own organization's charter that is the legal source of their authority". Because I've proved the opposite. And you haven't proved shit. All you ever done in this conversation is repeat vague accustions that came from the Kremlin with no details whatsoever. Also, there is no chance whatsoever that any judge would allow the DNC executive committee to arbitrary purge the 1000+ new members of the DNC and who legally control the DNC and the executive committee of the DNC.

Even if you provide a source, he said the opposite before a judge.

WHO "said the opposite"? A lawyer is a hired employee, not a member of the DNC. He has no authority to violate the party charter. Not one single member of the DNC has ever said such a thing. Since the 1000+ newly elected delegates ARE THE DNC, why would they ever even want to violate the party charter? There is no chance whatsoever that any judge would allow the DNC executive committee to arbitrary purge the 1000+ new members of the DNC and who legally control the DNC and the executive committee of the DNC.

Stop with the 'gaslight' shit. You've given no evidence at all to back up anything you've said. I've 100% proved my case with authoritive sources. YOU are gaslighting ME. Also, there is no chance whatsoever that any judge would allow the DNC executive committee to arbitrary purge the 1000+ new members of the DNC and who legally control the DNC and the executive committee of the DNC.

And finally I want to say this. There is no chance whatsoever that any judge would allow the DNC executive committee to arbitrary purge the 1000+ new members of the DNC and who legally control the DNC and the executive committee of the DNC.

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when we know that’s not true.

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Dude both Democrats and Republicans still loyal to America are scared to death that Traitorapest Trump is going be the end of democracy.

WHY WOULD LYNNE CHENEY THROW HER CAREER AWAY IF SHE DIDN'T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??

WHY WOULD ADAM KINZINGER THROW HIS CAREER AWAY IF HE DIDN'T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??

Why did Trump's Vice President, Sec of State, 2 Attorneys General, National Security Adviser -- ALL REPUBLICANS -- warn us that Trump is a threat to democracy.

Trump ordered an attack against America on Jan 6, 2001. The previous 2 months he spent every single day trying to figure out a way to overturn the election and disenfranchise millions of Americans. ONLY A POWER MAD NEOFASCIST WOULD DO THAT. There is overwhelming evidence that Trump knew he lost on election night and Steve Bannon admitted on audio tape before the election that Trump was going to lie "and say they stole it".

Every time Loser Trump loses an election or a court case he slanders our country and attacks our core values of democracy and the rule of law.

He admitted he would be a dictator "on day one".

He promised to abuse the justice system to go after political enemies.

He threatened to "pull the license" of news media that criticize him.

He tried to blackmail Ukraine to interfere in our elections.

He cooperated fully with Putin to interfere in our elections.

That’s like me saying that the Democrats are going to turn our country into socialism, when we know that’s not true.

Because there is no evidence for that whatsoever. With Treason Trump we have overwhelming evidence of his complete contempt for our longstanding core values of democracy and the rule of law.

Trump's action's between election day and Jan 6 ABSOLUTELY DISQUALIFY HIM from holding office. All Republicans who still support Treason Trump ARE SUPPORTING THE END OF DEMOCRACY.

TRUMP KNOWS THAT IF DOESN'T OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY THEN HE IS GOING TO PRISON.

Stock brokers shut down their consumer apps when those consumers invest in ways they threaten large hedge funds

Only an idiot unwise person would use their phones to make stock trades.

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I'm not calling you dumb and I'm sorry I sounded that way. I would never access any financial accounts on a phone or have any financial phone apps because of the gigantic risk. And I would never make any trade that requires another human to confirm my trade. And I would certainly never let any 'broker' access to my investments.

A) I voted for Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020.

B) This article explains how things really work and how the elected delegates are legally binded to Biden on the first ballot and that it would be illegal for anybody in the executive committee or anybody besides Job Biden to release the delegates.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-replacement-democratic-ballot-dnc-rules-7aa836b0ae642a68eec86cc0bebd3772

I’ve read the transcripts. They argued that the charter was discretionary.

You misread the transcripts and it gave you a dunning-kruger understanding. Even if the lawyer had said that it would still be completely incorrect.

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I mean that you need to see a doctor about your hallucinations.

I heard about the debate…do you want to talk about it

I've talked about it all over the place. I just haven't been an insecure asshat. Please talk to a psychologist sweetie.

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I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent,

There is not a big overlap between what skills a candidate needs and what skills a president needs. 99% of the job of president is to make decisions. That's the job. Even if he lost his voice entirely and was in a wheel chair like FDR, he could still make excellent decisions. President Biden absolutely killed it for 2 hours at the state of the union speech. Nobody who was "senile" could have done that.

I’ll still vote for him!”

Have you not been paying attention to current events? The country is at a critical junction between democracy and neofascism. OF COURSE I'm going to vote for the continuation of democracy. Anybody who does not would be an idiot. I would vote for a literal corpse over Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump.

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extremely difficult,

Let's see now, should I vote for Demoracy (D) or several decades of Fascism (R) and decadence and depravity? Such an extremely difficult choice. /s

if not impossible task of making people hate Trump more than they dislike Biden.

Treason Trump is the most hated politican in America dude. And I don't dislike Biden at all. He's been a decent and very effective president. But I would like to have a stronger candidate and see Biden release his delegates and be replaced with Gavin Newsom.

Now I’m sad because I remember wishing Bernie had won.

We all are dude. Or so I am guessing.

The only realistic person who would replace Biden is Kamala Harris, and I don’t think people would vote for her.

Nope. We need Gavin Newsome. If Biden released his delegates they would not be bound to Harris they could vote for anybody. But it would be helpful to have her buy in and I think she should be kept on the ticket as VP.

Fascism is great for any buisness that is already established.

Fascism is actually terrible for capitalism in general though. Not that billionaires are smart enough to understand that.

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I literally counted every one of Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump's lies and the total was over 200.

As for Biden, I am deeply hoping that behind the scenes other Dem politicians are furiously trying to convince Biden to drop out and be replaced with Gavin Newsom. The party rules are that Biden would need to agree to formally release his delegates. But since Biden has maintained all along that he only ran to keep Treason Trump out of office, I think it would be possible to persuade Biden to drop out. Leave Harris as VP because she would need to have buy in as well. The convention is not till August so it doesn't have to happen tomorrow but it does need to happen before the convention so they need to start working on it right now.

and likely never vote for a majority political party again.

If Trump wins you will never get to vote in a free and fair election ever again.

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LOL. I haven't been quit at all dude. Guess you need to get your hearing checked out. Okay doke?

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Traitorapist.

OMG Awesome label! I am so stealing that from you!

It will be the fault of Republicans first and asshats on the internet 2nd.

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It’s easier to fundraise as an opposition party.

Any funds raised can only be used to win elections, not to buy themselves candy and ice cream. But if they don't win they don't get any personal gifts from lobbyists or cushy jobs after leaving office.

WTF are you talking about. What I want is for Biden to drop out and be replaced by Gavin Newsom. Nor did I vote for Biden in the 2020 primary. I'm just saying that you're completely wrong that the system cannot produce good candidates since we've had great presidents in the past.

The DNC would rather

The newly elected delegates this year literally is the DNC. The smaller group of caretakers do not have the legal power to purge the large number of elected delegates. And these delegates are bound by the party charter to vote Biden on the first ballot. Unless Biden releases his delegates, which he could do and might do if convinced he is not the best choice to defeat Trump. So I am hoping that behind the scenes Dems are working furiously to convince Biden to release his delegates so that Gavin Newsome can be the nominee instead.

RIP usa your fates sealed

So is the rest of the world. What is in store next for humanity is an era of global chaos followed by nuclear war.

Enjoy your new era of global chaos followed by nuclear war.

Biden absolutely killed it in his state of the union address. How the f*ck did this happen? I am furious at Biden for letting down the country.

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it’s likely better for them financially if they barely lose

LMFAO that makes absolutely no sense. The only use of the money they raise is to win elections. It's not like if they lose they can use the leftover money to buy a new car. If there even is any leftover money, which there almost always is not.

Dem leaders prefer Trump to a real structural progressive economic reform.

Literally no Dem in the entire country prefers Traitorapist Trump to even a house plant. Trump and "real structural progressive economic reform" are completely disconnected things. It's not even remotely an either/or choice.

Kinda seems like the crime rates has significantly dropped during literally every Dem president for the last 30 years. And that crime rates dropping when Dems are president is a very normal thing.

JUST TELL HIM HE HAD THE BOARDER BILL KILLED!

And that Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump said he is going to give unlimited green cards to foreigners to work American jobs because billionaires gave him money.

He should have said both of those things every single time immigration was brought up.

Bring in Gavin Newsom NOW.

Nope. They argued in court that they could alter their charter.

The Neo-Nazis are in Russia working with NK.

The Axis of Evil

Treason Trump - War Criminal Putin - Caligula Jong Un - Comrade Xi

The only candidate we have pics of sleeping in public is Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump

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What I noticed is that you jumped on the bandwagon of ridiculous political smears. Just because Trump lies doesn't make lying okay.

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Considering that North Korea is literally the worse country in the world to live it, this is super likely to be an attractive offer.

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You just did the same thing

WTF are you talking about.

You do understand by engaging with the smears it brings you down with Trump right?

I always treat people the way they deserve. i.e. the way they treat others.

Joe Biden doesn’t get sleepy huh?

I've never seen Biden 'sleepy' in public. Like I have seen with Convicted Felon and Certified Sex Offender Trump. He's fallen asleep nearly day of his criminal trial. So the only reason to assign that adjective to Biden would be as a ridiculous Trump political smear.

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Coming up next: 40 years of dystopian Fascism. This is going to suck so much for people still in their 20's. My advice is to start organizing the Resistance RIGHT NOW. I am absolutely stunned to see the most successful country in the world completely collapse in a single day.

Nope. A lawyer argued in court that they could legally change the party charter, in to win a court case. Which they theoretically could, but if they tried to alter the charter this close to the election it would be overturned in court for a great many reasons.

Thinking that "DNC" small group of caretakers can choose anyone they want shows that you have a profound lack of understanding of how things actually work. Legally, control of the DNC lies in the hands of the newly elected delegates. The small caretaker group does not have the power to purge the much bigger general membership of already elected delegates. If they tried to, every single DNC delegate elected this year could sue the caretakers and would very easily win that lawsuit. Furthermore, the party charter bounds the delegates to Biden on the first ballot. Biden will have to be convinced to formally release them before they could legally vote for anybody else.

The reason why you have a profound misunderstanding of how things actually work is because you were subjected to an onslaught of Kremlin propaganda in 2016 without knowing the source. And that propaganda gave you a dunning-kruger effect of vastly overestimating your knowledge of how the political parties actually work.

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Biden's economic gains have been heavily understated.

Hey kids! There are lots of fun ways to break the 1st Commandment!

List of some random gods in order of importance

  1. Asherah

  2. Her husband Yahweh

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