I don't understand why people still want to use reddit instead of moving to Lemmy or Kbin

greensky@sh.itjust.works to Reddit Migration@kbin.social – 140 points –

Most people aren't even thinking of moving to reddit alternatives. Users have a lot of power in this situation. Just move your community to Lemmy or Kbin. It's not that hard.

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We're early adopters. Early adopters have a higher tolerance for (and ability to deal with) things like bugs, confusing UI, uncertainty, and probably continual change for the short term.

Not to mention, a lack of content. While it's populating nicely it's still not like Reddit, especially for niche subjects. You definitely have to endure a lot of shouting in the wind situations while this builds up.

Yeah, I've certainly found myself subscribing to any and every magazine that looks even remotely like it could be interesting. Getting inundated isn't a problem around these parts just yet. But the volume definitely has gone up recently.

I still am struggling with how to sub to a magazine. Poor guy running this needs a bit of help with ui so stupid people like myself can enjoy it

It's genuinely hard and needs to be improved. Subscribing to a magazine that someone else on kbin has subscribed to already isn't too bad. Go to the magazine (eg, click what looks like the subreddit name in the post) and scroll alllll the way down and there'll be a subscribe button.

But if nobody has subscribed yet in the instance, it's hilariously hard. You have to search in the general search (not the magazine search) for specifically "magazine@domain.com" and you should see a subscribe button then. You will not content in that magazine that existed before you subscribed. If that sounds terrible, it's because it is. Thankfully, most of the time, you won't be the first to subscribe to a magazine and thus can just use the magazine search or browse the front page to see posts.

PS: the subscribe option is also as the bottom of each thread. So you can alternatively just open a thread in the magazine instead of the magazine itself.

PPS: I've mentioned the subscribe button being at the bottom because that's the placement on mobile and I think many of us are on mobile. On desktop, it's in the sidebar.

thanks for the PPS as im on a laptop. I thought you were being dramatic at first as I was like. oh its not that far down. One scroll with my low rez screen. Im a smartphone luddite myself.

For mobile kbin users, you can tap the top left burger menu and scroll down just a little bit to subscribe to a magazine, instead of scroll past all the comments. The burger menu is just the side bar on desktop.

That's the one thing that bugs me, federation should be automated, why does it need for someone to try to pull a community first before that starts? It should be like Usenet or DNS and self-propagate.

It's probably a resource management issue. No need to sync with servers that nobody is reading yet, it just wastes bandwidth and CPU time.

The way I've found it (on kbin) is that there's a column on the right-hand side of comment thread pages. One of the boxes in the right-hand column is labeled "Magazine" and there should be a black button that's labeled "Subscribe" somewhere.

It seems almost exactly the same as the view from old reddit. right hand side sidebar with a box that says subscribe until you hit it and then it turns into unsubscribe. The only difference I see is the subs are consistent so like in reddit it was not consistantly in the same location but here it is.

I hope we get a way to easily access our followed list or like shortcuts like RES. Can sub to a lot and just shortcut the ones I really want to check out on their own.

I think a lot of my reddit usage boils down to searches.

"Best pregnancy lotion reddit"

"Bed gouging ender 3 pro reddit"

"Submarine disaster askhistorians"

Are the main ways I used reddit this week.

Before all the drama I had pointed to many friends that most discourse and live interaction on my regular subreddits had already moved to discord. The unified ui and functioning search make it more useful.

Before all the drama I had pointed to many friends that most discourse and live interaction on my regular subreddits had already moved to discord. The unified ui and functioning search make it more useful.

But discoverability is zero for that content. discord is "deep web" which is not indexable at all by search engines.

for me discord is just not organized. There is no way im scrolling up on conversations when I have not been on for three days much less a week. I think discord only works if you are looking to be on social media all the time or at least daily.

Agree. No matter what discord is still essentially just a chat room imo. Even with bots, read only channels, pinned messages, etc., navigating and searching for stuff that I want is still as painful as any other instant messaging services.

Yeah, and just googling something will be completely useless with a project named after a famous rock musician.

„How to upload pictures lemmy“, yes, thank you google, I know how Lemmy Kilmister looks, thank you.

That’s (among other things) why I hope kbin will be the victor of that race…

im not sure I want a victor or even see a race as long as the federation survives we all win.

If I'm not wrong, kbin right now isn't allowing for web crawlers. So using kbin for searches like for Reddit isn't possible for now as well.

although, I'm sure, google results will adjust accordingly eventually.

Also historic threads that probably will never be feasible to create anymore. Eg, I loved to read TV show episode discussions right after I watched the episode. That includes for older shows. As long as it didn't predate reddit, basically every notable show had a decent sized thread for every single episode. But a lot of those were only able to take off because they were created when the episode aired. Rewatches don't get the same kinda discussion.

Yep. The battletech comunity on reddit is like 45k subscribers and stays active. Kbin's /m/battletech has 56 subscribers. There are 5 threads. It's gonna be quite a while before niche communities actually have any momentum.

Well damn, thanks for talking about it, another community to sub to!

Time to find a Shadowrun one as well.

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Personally I was getting a bit tired of not having one of my interests here so I created the magazine for it. We'll just see if it takes off.
For some other niche interests...I'll wait and see, I don't feel invested enough to create the magazines for them.

(For those interested in vegetable gardening @VegetableGardening )

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