The challenge is that these days a phone is rarely used for calls or texts, but used with apps like WhatsApp or Teams or Slack or your mobile banking app, or things like that. And so there would need to be a critical mass of these apps to get me to switch.
Yup. Or Waydroid (or others) mature like Wine/Proton has.
SafetyNet is an issue though
SafetyNet is also an issue on Android as soon as you modify anything or install a custom ROM :/
I hate how corporations name their lock-in bullshit names that make it sound like it's for the user's protection when it's just protecting their garbage monopolies. I'd argue an open platform not under Google's control is more secure and safer for my data than a Google spy machine.
while typically I would agree, safetynet actually does do a lot to provide a safe execution environment. Yes, it can be used for vendor lock-in BS and drm, however it does also get used to protect privileged apps like banking apps, secure email etc
Moat of those work via Waydroid I think, but I still haven't had the chance to actually try (Linux-phoneless here)
Isn't WhatsApp just a texting and call app
Yes. But if 90% of your friends use it, and have groups in it where things are planned and organised, then by not having it you’re going to be missing out on a big chunk of things going on around you.
Year since there us no cross app texting.
Thankfully with a lot of stuff like banking apps, a lot of applications actually provide a pretty decent mobile webui. so a browser with the right user agent will still work (albiet to a limited degree, don't expect nfc payments any time soon)
The challenge is that these days a phone is rarely used for calls or texts, but used with apps like WhatsApp or Teams or Slack or your mobile banking app, or things like that. And so there would need to be a critical mass of these apps to get me to switch.
Yup. Or Waydroid (or others) mature like Wine/Proton has.
SafetyNet is an issue though
SafetyNet is also an issue on Android as soon as you modify anything or install a custom ROM :/
I hate how corporations name their lock-in bullshit names that make it sound like it's for the user's protection when it's just protecting their garbage monopolies. I'd argue an open platform not under Google's control is more secure and safer for my data than a Google spy machine.
while typically I would agree, safetynet actually does do a lot to provide a safe execution environment. Yes, it can be used for vendor lock-in BS and drm, however it does also get used to protect privileged apps like banking apps, secure email etc
Moat of those work via Waydroid I think, but I still haven't had the chance to actually try (Linux-phoneless here)
Isn't WhatsApp just a texting and call app
Yes. But if 90% of your friends use it, and have groups in it where things are planned and organised, then by not having it you’re going to be missing out on a big chunk of things going on around you.
Year since there us no cross app texting.
Thankfully with a lot of stuff like banking apps, a lot of applications actually provide a pretty decent mobile webui. so a browser with the right user agent will still work (albiet to a limited degree, don't expect nfc payments any time soon)