The mother of tattoo artist Shani Louk who was paraded semi-naked on a Hamas truck makes a public plea for more information

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The mother of a woman whose body was paraded through the streets by Hamas has pleaded for help finding her daughter.

A video showing German tattoo artist Shani Louk on the back of a pickup truck circulated on social media after the Palestinian militant group Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

Louk had been attending an outdoor "Festival for Peace" party near Kibbutz Urim when the area was targeted. First, rockets were launched, then gunmen and appeared and shot into the crowd, CNN reported. Party attendees told the outlet people immediately started to flee, passing dead bodies on the ground as they tried to escape the massacre.

The attack and resulting conflict has left hundreds of Israelis and Palestinians dead, with Israel's prime minister declaring war.

A video of a young woman with dreadlocks on the back of a pickup truck and surrounded by Hamas soldiers started circulating on social media shortly after the attack. In it, she appears stripped to her underwear, and her legs are bent at unnatural angles, while one soldier grabs her hair. People are also seen spitting on her body.

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In this thread yeah, but in other ones they're at the top.

Which ones?

Here, for example: https://lemmy.world/comment/4223593

Or https://lemmy.world/comment/4224328

Looks to me more like a healthy discussion /:

This is not a criticism of the ANC, btw… On a personal level I think some of their actions were deplorable, but I also think that it is fundamentally not up to any of us to judge the armed resistance of the oppressed unless we are actively fighting that oppression in better, more effective ways.

In other words: Personally, I think that anyone who is not personally at a minimum engaged in efforts to end Israeli oppression that is likely to right now be achieving more than armed Palestinian resistance has no moral standing to judge their actions.

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Just keep reading the replies from V H. He gets more apologist as you go farther down.

I disagree with this person but they aren't exactly Hamas supporters. I was expecting something more clear than just comments that could only vaguely be regarded as supportive/excusing of violence.

We have different definitions of "vaguely", I guess.

but the blame lies on Israel for each and every death on both sides as long as they maintain their apartheid regime and their illegal occupation.

This person is not excusing killing civilians, they're shifting the blame to Israel as a colonizer. This is a legitimate point to make and discuss with others.

I think you might be reading too much into it.

How can you say "this is not the fault of the killers, but of the colonizers who incited them" and not also be excusing the killers? "Look what you made me do" is classic abuser psychology.

I don't know, with a colonial reading of it, you could make that argument. Like I said, I don't agree, but it's not exactly pro-Hamas (which is what this discussion is about)

That seemed like a pretty calm and rational discussion about this horrible situation with people on both sides getting upvoted and the pro Hamas people at the bottom mostly getting down voted. Seems fine to me.

This is not a criticism of the ANC, btw… On a personal level I think some of their actions were deplorable, but I also think that it is fundamentally not up to any of us to judge the armed resistance of the oppressed unless we are actively fighting that oppression in better, more effective ways.

In other words: Personally, I think that anyone who is not personally at a minimum engaged in efforts to end Israeli oppression that is likely to right now be achieving more than armed Palestinian resistance has no moral standing to judge their actions.

24 up, 6 down

It's not a pro-Hamas comment. People who see the world in black and white like you are fucking scary man.