Kids in Germany in the 40s experienced bombing, and went on to form the European community with countries that were responsible for said bombing and acknowledged their country was in the wrong for voting in the Nazis. Why can't Palestinian kids have the same emotional realisation?
Because Germany didn't then exist under decades of apartheid where they were denied basic services just due to the accident of their birth. Even East Germans had it far, far better than Gazans.
The Nazis played on Germans agrievement over how they were treated post WW1 to gain support, Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.
Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.
Just FYI, Gazans are refugees who were forced to the Gaza strip by.... ISRAEL! Woohoo.
Yes, war creates refugees, always has. Maybe all those surrounding nations that went to war with Isreal should have considered that.
Are you actually claiming Israel has no culpability when it comes to the suffering of the people of Gaza?
Yes, and when you do that, no journalists will chase you to scream, "BUT DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL?"
No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they've had to do for their own safety over the years.
One would think not escalating situations might be better for their own safety...
Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I'm sitting.
Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they're nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you're escalating.
Like it or not, Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what's happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.
How many of those children voted for Hamas in 2006? Exactly how many?
How many children voted for various governments that lead their countries to war throughout history?
I'm not sure how that justifies what is going on in Gaza. The claim was that Hamas and Gaza were interchangeable (thus justifying Israeli atrocities) because Gazans voted for Hamas in 2006. When almost half the population were, at best, toddlers in 2006.
Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.
Sure, let's blame the civilian Palestinian deaths on the Israelis that voted this current gov't into power...
Oh wait, this isn't how it works
What? The Isrealis were moved out of Gaza before the 2006 elections.
They took land (rather, were given land by western empires that wasn't there's to give) and kicked out and killed those who were there. Yeah, that's didn't create any resentment at all I'm sure and it's all the attacks that happened in response that caused it.
Someone else can always be blamed. To act like Israel doesn't share in the blame is probably one of the most ignorant statements I've heard.
Actually, we did have the right to give out that land as we won it from the Ottomans.
And the Ottomans had the right to the land because...
Adding onto the other poster's comment, another reason is because the US will never pour unlimited money and resources into these people making sure they do.
Europe didn't pull itself up by its own bootstraps after WWII.
Why can’t Palestinian kids have the same emotional realisation?
75 years of collective trauma
and more than decade living in the open air prison
Kids in Germany in the 40s experienced bombing, and went on to form the European community with countries that were responsible for said bombing and acknowledged their country was in the wrong for voting in the Nazis. Why can't Palestinian kids have the same emotional realisation?
Because Germany didn't then exist under decades of apartheid where they were denied basic services just due to the accident of their birth. Even East Germans had it far, far better than Gazans.
The Nazis played on Germans agrievement over how they were treated post WW1 to gain support, Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.
Just FYI, Gazans are refugees who were forced to the Gaza strip by.... ISRAEL! Woohoo.
Yes, war creates refugees, always has. Maybe all those surrounding nations that went to war with Isreal should have considered that.
Are you actually claiming Israel has no culpability when it comes to the suffering of the people of Gaza?
Yes, and when you do that, no journalists will chase you to scream, "BUT DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL?"
No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they've had to do for their own safety over the years.
One would think not escalating situations might be better for their own safety...
Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I'm sitting.
Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they're nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you're escalating.
Like it or not, Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what's happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.
How many of those children voted for Hamas in 2006? Exactly how many?
How many children voted for various governments that lead their countries to war throughout history?
I'm not sure how that justifies what is going on in Gaza. The claim was that Hamas and Gaza were interchangeable (thus justifying Israeli atrocities) because Gazans voted for Hamas in 2006. When almost half the population were, at best, toddlers in 2006.
Sure, let's blame the civilian Palestinian deaths on the Israelis that voted this current gov't into power...
Oh wait, this isn't how it works
What? The Isrealis were moved out of Gaza before the 2006 elections.
Israel didn't exist there prior...
They took land (rather, were given land by western empires that wasn't there's to give) and kicked out and killed those who were there. Yeah, that's didn't create any resentment at all I'm sure and it's all the attacks that happened in response that caused it.
Someone else can always be blamed. To act like Israel doesn't share in the blame is probably one of the most ignorant statements I've heard.
Actually, we did have the right to give out that land as we won it from the Ottomans.
And the Ottomans had the right to the land because...
Adding onto the other poster's comment, another reason is because the US will never pour unlimited money and resources into these people making sure they do.
Europe didn't pull itself up by its own bootstraps after WWII.
75 years of collective trauma
and more than decade living in the open air prison