They use to tell us we couldnt trust Wikipedia. Now we know. Wikipedia is the only website you can trust.

Daft_ish@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world – 1060 points –
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Yet if you ever try to edit a page, the "Talk" tab is filled with the most pretentious protectionist people. You can add helpful context or missing information with sources to the wiki, and it will get deleted simply because you haven't spent months cozying up to the greaseball who sits on that specific wiki entry as if they possess it.

there is a bureaucratic machine for dealing with this kind of problem

But what do we do if every level of that machine is completely controlled by those people?

it's not. there are boards on Wikipedia specifically for calling in neutral editors.

Yep, generally different editors focus on different subjects.

Tbf the gamergate saga basically caused the infrastructure to have a rolling panic attack over how that such a large movement to insert misinformation against any effort to correct it.

All articles referencing this topic on Wikipedia are extremely biased.

Just call then out on it in talk by mentioning why you would add it.

Alternatively make an upgraded English-only wiki alternative with way larger article max sizes so we can finally evolve it past 2005. And start using YouTube links and not (just) a native video player. And start quoting/including entire chapters from relevant books.

The problem with using YT videos is that they are transitory. Also, you're then subjecting your reader to somebody else's advertisements for their gain.

Also YT follows the same rules as Wikipedia for being a source.

You don't cite it, you find what it's citing and cite that if you decide what those sources have to say are relevant to your intended argument.