He's the Chair of the Committee; it is quite literally his job to maintain decorum and everyone else's job to not speak out of turn. Only Mullin was being a child here, no reason to impugn everyone else in the room for doing what they were supposed to be doing and letting the Chair handle it.
And to be clear, mullin is doing this because he got his fee fees hurt by a mean twitter reply.
Who are these others whose honor you are so concerned with? Those chairs are mostly empty. The bums didn't even show up.
Only Mullin was being a child here
Really? The guy who challenged him to a fist fight "anytime, anywhere" and then agreed to it in the chambers wasn't being a child? Only the one who accepted the challenge? How does that work?
The other guy was called to Congress by Congress I believe. Basically he was summoned or asked to be their to testify. TBH I dont know the circumstances of his presence but often you can't 'refuse' to show up.
So from the perspective of a citizen being summoned to testify before a Senate committee, then being challenged to a physical fight from a Senator while he is there.... its absolutely unequivocally Mullin's fault. Imagine going to court for a speeding ticket and the judge challenges you to a fist fight. You can't not show up and now you have to deal with somone trying to physically assault you?!?
GTFO. Mullin is a clown.
He was not challenged to a physical fight. He was the challenger. He challenged the senator to a physical fight. Then while in Congress, his challenge was accepted.
They're both clowns.
No, he fucking tweeted. Mullin is clearly in the wrong and the obvious instigator. It's like you've not even watched the fucking video
No, he fucking tweeted.
Yes, that's correct, the instigator tweeted a challenge to a fist fight to the senator "anytime, anywhere", which the senator accepted.
Both idiots are clearly in the wrong here but people here are only interested in defending their favorite tribe, and don't care about any sort of rational discussion.
I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out, but the choice of time and place shows such a serious lack of common sense that it would be alarming for a professional fighter, not to mention an elected representative.
The guy thought that, when challenged anytime anywhere, there and then, in Congress, during a hearing would be a good time and place. smh
I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out
Okay well, what you care about has zero bearing on whether or not these actions are childish.
but the choice of time and place
The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.
One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator.
Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras.
One of those people is not a US Senator.
I don't understand why you're telling me this like I don't know.
The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet.
A Tweet where he was challenged to a fist fight.
The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time.
After being challenged "anytime, anywhere".
Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office.
He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate.
This person is definitely following a script.
Okay at this point this conversation has devolved to name-calling and repeatedly straight-up lying about the events that transpired so I think it's safe to say you have no interest in an honest discussion. Bye bye now đź‘‹
I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person?
There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place.
There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate.
There are no times or locations that are appropriate to challenge a grown man to a fist fight, as if that somehow would settle the differences.
Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right...
Which of my comments did you perceive as excusing the senator?
The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.
In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place.
Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree
Yes that is exactly what I've said.
I choose trial by combat!
One is a senator, one is the president of the teamsters. There's a bit of difference there. That's not to mention one was summoned there and the other one works there. Sure, a physical fight is "silly", but it's only beneath one of their job positions.
There's a bit of difference there.
What difference is that, exactly? They're both human adults. For the purposes of this conversation, that's all that matters. No one should be challenging anyone else to fist-fights. They're both children.
it's only beneath one of their job positions.
Totally okay for a union President to challenge a sitting US senator to a fist-fight. Okay. Sure. That makes a ton of sense.
Let’s not both sides this one. One had great power and one goes to jail for not showing up and smiling.
I will "both sides" every issue where there's more than 1 person to blame, which is almost always.
Let's not "my tribe" this one.
lol you’re really on a war path, what with your “you’re not the boss of me” and all
I really don't even know what that's supposed to mean...
He's the Chair of the Committee; it is quite literally his job to maintain decorum and everyone else's job to not speak out of turn. Only Mullin was being a child here, no reason to impugn everyone else in the room for doing what they were supposed to be doing and letting the Chair handle it.
And to be clear, mullin is doing this because he got his fee fees hurt by a mean twitter reply.
Who are these others whose honor you are so concerned with? Those chairs are mostly empty. The bums didn't even show up.
Really? The guy who challenged him to a fist fight "anytime, anywhere" and then agreed to it in the chambers wasn't being a child? Only the one who accepted the challenge? How does that work?
The other guy was called to Congress by Congress I believe. Basically he was summoned or asked to be their to testify. TBH I dont know the circumstances of his presence but often you can't 'refuse' to show up.
So from the perspective of a citizen being summoned to testify before a Senate committee, then being challenged to a physical fight from a Senator while he is there.... its absolutely unequivocally Mullin's fault. Imagine going to court for a speeding ticket and the judge challenges you to a fist fight. You can't not show up and now you have to deal with somone trying to physically assault you?!?
GTFO. Mullin is a clown.
He was not challenged to a physical fight. He was the challenger. He challenged the senator to a physical fight. Then while in Congress, his challenge was accepted.
They're both clowns.
No, he fucking tweeted. Mullin is clearly in the wrong and the obvious instigator. It's like you've not even watched the fucking video
Yes, that's correct, the instigator tweeted a challenge to a fist fight to the senator "anytime, anywhere", which the senator accepted.
Both idiots are clearly in the wrong here but people here are only interested in defending their favorite tribe, and don't care about any sort of rational discussion.
I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out, but the choice of time and place shows such a serious lack of common sense that it would be alarming for a professional fighter, not to mention an elected representative.
The guy thought that, when challenged anytime anywhere, there and then, in Congress, during a hearing would be a good time and place. smh
Okay well, what you care about has zero bearing on whether or not these actions are childish.
The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.
One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator.
Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras.
I don't understand why you're telling me this like I don't know.
A Tweet where he was challenged to a fist fight.
After being challenged "anytime, anywhere".
Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office.
He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate.
This person is definitely following a script.
Okay at this point this conversation has devolved to name-calling and repeatedly straight-up lying about the events that transpired so I think it's safe to say you have no interest in an honest discussion. Bye bye now đź‘‹
I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person?
There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place.
There are no times or locations that are appropriate to challenge a grown man to a fist fight, as if that somehow would settle the differences.
Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right...
Which of my comments did you perceive as excusing the senator?
In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place.
Yes that is exactly what I've said.
I choose trial by combat!
One is a senator, one is the president of the teamsters. There's a bit of difference there. That's not to mention one was summoned there and the other one works there. Sure, a physical fight is "silly", but it's only beneath one of their job positions.
What difference is that, exactly? They're both human adults. For the purposes of this conversation, that's all that matters. No one should be challenging anyone else to fist-fights. They're both children.
Totally okay for a union President to challenge a sitting US senator to a fist-fight. Okay. Sure. That makes a ton of sense.
Let’s not both sides this one. One had great power and one goes to jail for not showing up and smiling.
I will "both sides" every issue where there's more than 1 person to blame, which is almost always.
Let's not "my tribe" this one.
lol you’re really on a war path, what with your “you’re not the boss of me” and all
I really don't even know what that's supposed to mean...