Biden Campaign Starts Reminding America Why It Dumped Trump In The First Place

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Biden Campaign Starts Reminding America Why It Dumped Trump In The First Place
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Both the president and his reelection campaign are going after his coup-attempting predecessor even before the first GOP primary ballots are cast.

A full year out from the 2024 presidential election and nearly two months before Republicans cast their first primary ballots, President Joe Biden and his campaign are assuming that Donald Trump will be his opponent and have already started reminding voters why they threw him out of office in the first place.

Biden personally has stepped up criticism of his coup-attempting predecessor and is framing the likely rematch as one that will determine the survival of American democracy.

“The same man who said we should terminate the rules and regulations and articles of the Constitution — these are things he said — is now running on a plan to end democracy as we know it,” he said last week at a fundraiser in Chicago.

“This next election is different. It’s more important. There’s more at stake. And we all know why: Because our very democracy is at stake,” he told a San Francisco audience on Wednesday.

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Have you forgotten how much Democrats hate Trump?

Under Biden, Democrats are all lining up to support Israel's genocide in Gaza. Even Bernie refuses to endorse a ceasefire.

Under Trump that would be drastically different. I bet more than half of Democrats would have the courage to condemn Israel.

Under Trump that would be drastically different

Care to explain further? Because his entire term during presidency says otherwise.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/

And if you want further counterexamples, I can pull up all the times Republicans sided with Russia as they waged war on Ukraine.

Care to explain further? Because his entire term during presidency says otherwise.

Do you remember when Democrats opposed Trump moving the embassy to Jerusalem?

I'm not saying Trump wouldn't support Israel. He absolutely would! But Democrats would react to this by becoming less supportive of Israel.

At the very least politicians like Bernie would have the courage to call for a ceasefire.

I remember when Trump became president and suddenly Republicans were strongly in support of bombing Syria but Democrat opinion stayed roughly where it was. So, basically your entire premise is flawed.

Maybe. Either way, I will not vote for genocide.

In a two-party system, not voting is a vote for the eventual winner. So you're still voting for genocide.

But this time it'll be with Trump, and so without calls for a 'humanitarian pause' (which is a call for a ceasefire in terms that save face for Bibi's government, which has clearly signaled that it will not consider a ceasefire). Instead, rather, it'd probably be accompanied by horrendously racist rhetoric encouraging the rise in domestic Islamophobic attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if US jets were running sorties on Palestinian hospitals if this happened under a Trump presidency.

You're right, I should blow my brains out in a polling booth. That would be a much better vote.

It'd catch some attention.

Either take up action against the system, or work to change it. "I'm going to play by the system's rules, but I'll cross my arms and get huffy sometimes!" isn't a big kid choice. So put on your big kid pants and make a fucking decision. I would prefer you join the rest of the adults in the room working to move progressive causes and progressive opinions in the general population forward in a democratic fashion, but if you want to start taking illegal action against the system, fuck, at least that's a choice. But "I'm going to let fascism win because the status quo offends me!" isn't worthy of any kind of respect.

Characterizing opposition to genocide as "the status quo offends me" really tells me a lot about you.

As for taking illegal action, why officer, I have no idea what you're talking about. I would never do anything like that - I was just giving an example, I didn't mean to imply I endorse or encourage any kinds of illegal activity. We should all be good citizens and not break laws. 🙂

Characterizing opposition to genocide as “the status quo offends me” really tells me a lot about you.

Supporting Israel as it commits genocide is and has literally been the status quo for the past thirty fucking years. Saying that it's not says a lot more about your awareness of politics and the world around you than it does me.

As for taking illegal action, why officer, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I would never do anything like that - I was just giving an example, I didn’t mean to imply I endorse or encourage any kinds of illegal activity. We should all be good citizens and not break laws. 🙂

Illegal action against the system. No, petty vandalism doesn't count. Put up or shut up.

You won't need to if Trump wins. They're already laying out their plans to suppress anyone who doesn't support him hard enough.

So unless your opposition to Biden is purely performative, you'll be getting shafted just like anyone else who doesn't have a Trump flag on their pickup.

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"It'll be better under Trump!"

... I'm seriously starting to think some of these lemmy.ml and hexbear "communist" are MAGAts cosplaying Marxists.

They're similar in that they have horrendously naive and simplistic views of the world. Mirror images.

I didn't say it would be better, I said Democrats would have better political positions.

Do you think Bernie would refuse to endorse a ceasefire under Trump?

Do you think Bernie would refuse to endorse a ceasefire under Trump?

Yes, probably. Considering that it comes on the heels of an attack that killed a thousand Israeli civilians, and Bibi has made it clear that a ceasefire is not going to happen?

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable - the art of the second best."

A failure of imagination.

You keep living in your land of imagination, then, where everything will get better once it gets worse, like some kind of pendulum. Those of us who understand that we aren't living in a fairy-tale world will continue to actually work to stop fascism.

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