I do not care. It's hell either way. If anything, the only other option besides hellish dictatorship been promised is not as hellish but slower burning dictatorship.
What ever happen to that student loan forgiveness. Gonna run on that again. Oh I promised last time but this time I pinky promise no take backsies cross my heart.
Fuck off. Let it burn.
You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?
But yeah, a society without any social safety net, without rights for minorities, with a stupid state religion and 1000 other horrible things is just as bad as people who in the best case change things and worst case don't make the US worse.
if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted
you can't prove that.
No I can't. But you can't prove that they wouldn't either.
With more democrats DC could be a state for example (Biden approves of that), abortian access could be written in law and student loans could be partially forgiven.
But unless you vote, we will never know.
What I know is that Biden DID something about student loans though. For example there is a new repayment plan that does not allow any interest and therefore allows to actually pay off your student loans.
But yeah, that's probably norhing acording to you.
You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?
Oh come on. They would do what they always fucking do. They'd find just enough no votes.
Then vote them out in the next primaries or unionize and strike. You have more power than you think.
You have more power than you think.
I'm in Texas. Don't lie to me.
37.06% of voting age population turned out to the 2022 gubernatorial election if 4% more voters that would have voted democrat would have turned up, Texas would now have a democratic governor, but sure you don't have any power.
If you vote and enough others can get out there and vote you can change a state but if you just sit home and do nothing, nothing will happen.
Great. I already vote in every election and primary. In the primaries, party leadership heavily supports anti-choice anti-labor pro-nra candidates like Cuellar. When their efforts to shut progressives out at the primary level fail, they pull the rug out from under them by withholding funding like they did with Vallejo.
Don't lecture me for not being as happy as you are with a party that fights progressives and not Republicans.
Have you tried becoming a State Delegate and influencing the Party Chair? That's a way to influence who gets to decide about supporting whom, isn't it?
I love how centrists' answer to anyone pointing out the party's anti-progressive fuckery is "you're just not doing enough!"
I am definitely not a centrist. I am left and that in Europe but I have enough of people just always blaming others for not getting anything done. This is exactly what happens everywhere right now: People trying to convince voters that their votes don't matter and that will just lead to conservatives, fascists and far-right parties to win. Because they vote all the time.
Oh, you're from Europe?
Cool. Everything wrong with Europe is your fault because you're not involved enough.
Shit, if more people voted in the primaries Bernie would have had a stronger hand to negotiate policy if not having been the nominee either time.
But these fucksticks have the gall to wonder why people who aren't them are not voting the way they would for them.
Millennials and Gen Z could be dominating the primary process and yet underperform their share of the overall population, let alone the share they could easily take up in the democratic party if they didn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming to mark some squares on a ballot.
It will be so much worse under fascism. You might not be wild about Biden but if the alternative is fascism...when you say let it burn, that means a lot - and I mean a lot - of people will be harmed, most likely including you.
I think Biden is a fascist.
Ever heard of Hitler or Mussolini? You should read up on them and then consider your words again.
Mussolini is exactly who I was thinking of.
Oh boy! What kind of stuff did you take to think that Biden is comparable to a treacherous mass-murderer with a god complex?
Not getting student loan relief is a maintaining of the status quo, not a "hellish dictatorship". In fact, having the Congress and Courts strike down student loan relief is the POLAR OPPOSITE of a dictatorship.
So fuck the status quo, burn the college debt. I don't even have any, I was smart enough to get full scholarships.
A lot of it isn't what people are smart enough to do, lots of people get tricked into loans they can't pay back.
When our kid went to college, 3 separate schools wanted us taking out loans of $56,000 a year... $224,000 for a 4 year degree...
We told them "Yeah, no..." and enrolled him at a state school for $10K a year, where he had a $5k per year scholarship. I paid the remaining $5K cash.
But I could see other parents, after getting 3 schools telling them the same oddly specific number "Well, I guess that's what school costs!"
But people are still going to stalk my profile and down vote literally every comment I've ever posted regardless of what I agree with you about. Look for yourself if you don't believe me, you're free to view and vote just like those people.
I truly appreciate you being open to discussion, we just can't do it without others putting their uninvolved vote into what they're to scared to confront.
I do not care. It's hell either way. If anything, the only other option besides hellish dictatorship been promised is not as hellish but slower burning dictatorship.
What ever happen to that student loan forgiveness. Gonna run on that again. Oh I promised last time but this time I pinky promise no take backsies cross my heart.
Fuck off. Let it burn.
You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?
But yeah, a society without any social safety net, without rights for minorities, with a stupid state religion and 1000 other horrible things is just as bad as people who in the best case change things and worst case don't make the US worse.
you can't prove that.
No I can't. But you can't prove that they wouldn't either.
With more democrats DC could be a state for example (Biden approves of that), abortian access could be written in law and student loans could be partially forgiven.
But unless you vote, we will never know.
What I know is that Biden DID something about student loans though. For example there is a new repayment plan that does not allow any interest and therefore allows to actually pay off your student loans.
But yeah, that's probably norhing acording to you.
Oh come on. They would do what they always fucking do. They'd find just enough no votes.
Then vote them out in the next primaries or unionize and strike. You have more power than you think.
I'm in Texas. Don't lie to me.
37.06% of voting age population turned out to the 2022 gubernatorial election if 4% more voters that would have voted democrat would have turned up, Texas would now have a democratic governor, but sure you don't have any power.
If you vote and enough others can get out there and vote you can change a state but if you just sit home and do nothing, nothing will happen.
Great. I already vote in every election and primary. In the primaries, party leadership heavily supports anti-choice anti-labor pro-nra candidates like Cuellar. When their efforts to shut progressives out at the primary level fail, they pull the rug out from under them by withholding funding like they did with Vallejo.
Don't lecture me for not being as happy as you are with a party that fights progressives and not Republicans.
Have you tried becoming a State Delegate and influencing the Party Chair? That's a way to influence who gets to decide about supporting whom, isn't it?
I love how centrists' answer to anyone pointing out the party's anti-progressive fuckery is "you're just not doing enough!"
I am definitely not a centrist. I am left and that in Europe but I have enough of people just always blaming others for not getting anything done. This is exactly what happens everywhere right now: People trying to convince voters that their votes don't matter and that will just lead to conservatives, fascists and far-right parties to win. Because they vote all the time.
Oh, you're from Europe?
Cool. Everything wrong with Europe is your fault because you're not involved enough.
Shit, if more people voted in the primaries Bernie would have had a stronger hand to negotiate policy if not having been the nominee either time.
But these fucksticks have the gall to wonder why people who aren't them are not voting the way they would for them.
Millennials and Gen Z could be dominating the primary process and yet underperform their share of the overall population, let alone the share they could easily take up in the democratic party if they didn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming to mark some squares on a ballot.
It will be so much worse under fascism. You might not be wild about Biden but if the alternative is fascism...when you say let it burn, that means a lot - and I mean a lot - of people will be harmed, most likely including you.
I think Biden is a fascist.
Ever heard of Hitler or Mussolini? You should read up on them and then consider your words again.
Mussolini is exactly who I was thinking of.
Oh boy! What kind of stuff did you take to think that Biden is comparable to a treacherous mass-murderer with a god complex?
Not getting student loan relief is a maintaining of the status quo, not a "hellish dictatorship". In fact, having the Congress and Courts strike down student loan relief is the POLAR OPPOSITE of a dictatorship.
So fuck the status quo, burn the college debt. I don't even have any, I was smart enough to get full scholarships.
A lot of it isn't what people are smart enough to do, lots of people get tricked into loans they can't pay back.
When our kid went to college, 3 separate schools wanted us taking out loans of $56,000 a year... $224,000 for a 4 year degree...
We told them "Yeah, no..." and enrolled him at a state school for $10K a year, where he had a $5k per year scholarship. I paid the remaining $5K cash.
But I could see other parents, after getting 3 schools telling them the same oddly specific number "Well, I guess that's what school costs!"
But people are still going to stalk my profile and down vote literally every comment I've ever posted regardless of what I agree with you about. Look for yourself if you don't believe me, you're free to view and vote just like those people.
I truly appreciate you being open to discussion, we just can't do it without others putting their uninvolved vote into what they're to scared to confront.