Human Rights Watch says rocket misfire likely cause of deadly Gaza hospital blast

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Human Rights Watch says rocket misfire likely cause of deadly Gaza hospital blast
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The only good guys around are the medics & doctors trying to keep people from dying

Naw, these people are bad too, it turns out. These people are willing to lie to everyone to preserve their access to Gaza and the flow of UN aid.

Got any verifiable proof of that?

Yup, some new interrogation tapes are out and also pictures of medical IDs found on terrorists. You should be able to find them with a few clicks.

whose tapes? why can you not just post direct links?

Well yeah, wouldn't a fake medic ID be highly convenient for a terrorist? (To your comment above).

Statements from one or a couple of people proves nothing, sadly the world we live in is full of lies, deception & coercion.

Including the CCTV footage? Or what was told by the 2020 British doctor who worked at Al Shifa? Including the Vice documentary? Including Amnesty report?

I don't owe you anything.. and I don't care what you think. This war is gonna go one way or the other, but y'all motherfuckers better march with me to force Israel to rebuild Gaza for their neighbours

Xitter has never been, and never will be, considered verifiable proof.

Care to try again, or just call it a day?

And that's bad because? Even assuming that's true, the fact that they need to lie to get aid into Gaza is the problem.

I think it's bad when people who claim neutrality in a conflict are actually aiding one side of the conflict, and lying about it. Israel would be justified, in this situation, in treating them as spies.

Spies against a brutal genocidal occupier are good guys in my book.

Spies on the side of the guys who rape 13-year-old girls with knives aren't the "good guys" in any fucking universe.

Setting aside the veracity of that accusation, medical personnel can only be interpreted as on the side of civilians. It just happens that the interests of civilians (not dying) happen to go against the interests of Israel (killing civilians and taking their lands).

Well, no; if medical personnel are taking affirmative, supportive actions for one of the combatants - as its been proved many medical staff are doing on behalf of Hamas - but are doing so under the false guise of neutrality, then they're spies under the Geneva Conventions and can be shot when captured.

"We had to work with Hamas in order to have access to their civilians" isn't a sufficient defense to that. There are already rules about access to civilians that Hamas can be demanded to follow; you don't actually have to join Hamas in order to access Gazan civilians.