How Popular Does Biden Need to Be to Beat Trump? Not Very.

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How Popular Does Biden Need to Be to Beat Trump? Not Very.
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Given the current state of partisan polarization, it’s unlikely Biden can get majority job approval next year even with the most fortunate set of circumstances. But the good news for him is that he probably doesn’t have to. Job-approval ratings are crucial indicators in a normal presidential reelection cycle that is basically a referendum on the incumbent’s record. Assuming Trump is the Republican nominee, 2024 will not be a normal reelection cycle for three reasons.

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Who would've been better?

If the DNC hadn't shoved Hillary down our throats, Bernie would have certainly won the primary. But on policy the best candidate would have been Andrew Yang.

The DNC would rather lose elections than give us non-establishment politicians.

I was under the impression that Bernie was too left even for a lot of Democrat voters, so winning the elections could've been a tough one

And just like that, the party's voters aren't expected to fall in line for a candidate they don't want in order to stop Trump.

Not like expecting them to fall in line would've done anything if you're losing a hefty chunk of the moderates. That's what seems to decide American elections, who can claw more of the middle ground undecided voters to their side.

Not like expecting them to fall in line would’ve done anything if you’re losing a hefty chunk of the moderates.

So "vote blue no matter who" was a crock of fucking bullshit put forth by hypocrites who never intend to follow their own advice if a candidate isn't their very first choice.

I wouldn't think it's the moderates or undecided people that are saying that.

Then you're either not paying any attention whatsoever, or you're gaslighting me. Either way, there is no reason to continue this conversation.

Why would those who are closest to switching or especially those who are undecided be hardcore about always voting Democrats..?

there is no reason to continue this conversation.

I mean I'd really like to hear your reasoning behind your thinking, so that's a reason but if you don't feel like it then sure, probably better to end it here.

I mean I’d really like to hear your reasoning behind your thinking

You have already. You responded by lying and saying that centrists never espoused the "no matter who" rhetoric. Since all you're going to do is lie and gaslight, you can find someone else to do that to.

I'm really bewildered with the logic behind your thinking. By "centrists" do you mean the right-wing of Democrats, the middle ground between parties and the left-wing of Republicans (the political central position as it is in the US) or something else? I could believe the ones solidly in the middle of their own party could be diehards, but saying that especially people who are switching parties are also diehards makes no sense. You'd expect that from those who are committed to one party, not those who are undecided or uncommitted.

I feel like there's some major miscommunication somewhere. I wish you'd calm down and we could just go through what we mean so we could figure out this situation.

For clarification, I drew a magnificent pic (well, only the circle). The ones I'm talking about are within the green circle. Are you talking about some other group?

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Oh yes how the DNC shoved Hillary down our votes by mind controlling millions of so called Bernie supporters to not even turn out for him and then throw a tantrum that other voters didn't vote for him on their behalf.

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