Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 839 points –

I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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I'm actually really trying to play devils advocate... But I'm struggling.

I came to get away from the main stream socials.

I came to minimise my farmed data footprint.

I came to find other like minded people.

These principals alone are shared by quite a few I guess.

If we end up hooked up to the machine we were trying to escape from then coming here was near pointless.

I'm not joking when I say our only sure way of escaping the machine is to get an off-grid cabin in the woods and no longer participate in the internet.

I think you're not seeing the bigger picture: Give up and leave will have exactly one effect. Less people stand against the "machine" and the "woods" gets more and more cabins until the machine get wind of it and comes there too.

The only solution is to fight it and kill it.

The only solution is to fight it and kill it.

That's like saying the only way to get out of being hit by flying debris is to eliminate all wind on the planet. As much as we like to think of Threads as some corporate being, it's not. It's a hundred million people that are made of meat and have day jobs like you and me - the wind - and a few million bots and controlled accounts which attempt to influence [whatever their master wishes] - the debris. The debris is already here, and it's people too - just people with nefarious or profiteering intent. It (debris) happens whenever there are enough people (enough wind) to stir things up.

Cutting yourself off from people is the only way to prevent it because it's an inherent function of humanity.

But it isnt. Using bots and in the case of meta automatic account creation is the reason the have 100 mil „users“.

The „thing“ we need to fight is greed and people who say all hope is lost are on the side of greed.

Its actually not that many bad actors. The vast majority is passive. The EU is already putting up a good fight and we can do similar.

Don’t think its possible? No problem. Have a good day. :)

At this point I'm limiting what I access and where. I'm targeting a more 1990's internet experience. I love learning and technical stuff and would miss it if I went off grid, no matter how tempting that is.

I came to get away from the main stream socials.

You still can. Just block threads.net instance in things like Mastodon and Lemmy.

I came to minimise my farmed data footprint.

Your data is public in fediverse. They can scrape even right as we speak.

I would need someone to confirm this, but I have heard that if you block, then it prevents their instance from scraping your data because they shouldn't receive your content if they are blocked, but it doesn't change the public data being available by other means anyways.

I came to find other like minded people.

Follow hashtags and communities that are your interest. Block users and/or instances you would rather not see or be part of. Also, you can find an instance that fits your values that is already blocking instances you disagree with.

I am mostly indifferent of Threads joining at this time, but those that are not in favor, there are options.

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