Their question was literally "do we still need instance blocks"
What? The question was literally “Should instances defederate with other instances anymore if we can filter instances out on our end?”.
Defederating = instance block
Defederation is done by the instance administrator and affects all users. Instance blocking is done by the user and affects only them.
Instance blocks have been admin/instance level before user level instance blocks were a thing. User level instance blocks are more accurately user level filters. Only admin level instance blocks are true blocks.
Admin level blocks are what I'm referring to in this conversation and that most people assume when they see the term "instance block"
But the OP specifically talked about how the new ability to block instances can replace defederation, so it’s clear what they had in mind.
You seem to be more interested in the semantics than the point I was making
Your original point was that a fediverse without instance blocks would be bad, which is irrelevant to the post because the OP is not advocating for a fediverse without instance blocks:
I used instance block as a synonym for defederating. Now you know what I meant, can we get on with the discussion instead of arguing about things I didn't mean
Alright. To quote your original comment:
Yes, and thus you have one giant mega community in which every bigot can access anyone and everyone else.
How would removing defederation result in a situation where “every bigot can access anyone and everyone else” if user-level instance blocking was still a thing?
Because user level blocking isn't really blocking. It's just filtering. The bigots can still see the content of people that have blocked their instance, and they can even reply to it. The only person that can't see it is the user who configured the "block"
What exactly is the problem with a bigot replying to you if you don’t see the reply?
Also, they can see the content even if you defederate, because it’s public.
The OP is not against instance blocks.
Their question was literally "do we still need instance blocks"
What? The question was literally “Should instances defederate with other instances anymore if we can filter instances out on our end?”.
Defederating = instance block
Defederation is done by the instance administrator and affects all users. Instance blocking is done by the user and affects only them.
Instance blocks have been admin/instance level before user level instance blocks were a thing. User level instance blocks are more accurately user level filters. Only admin level instance blocks are true blocks.
Admin level blocks are what I'm referring to in this conversation and that most people assume when they see the term "instance block"
But the OP specifically talked about how the new ability to block instances can replace defederation, so it’s clear what they had in mind.
You seem to be more interested in the semantics than the point I was making
Your original point was that a fediverse without instance blocks would be bad, which is irrelevant to the post because the OP is not advocating for a fediverse without instance blocks:
I used instance block as a synonym for defederating. Now you know what I meant, can we get on with the discussion instead of arguing about things I didn't mean
Alright. To quote your original comment:
How would removing defederation result in a situation where “every bigot can access anyone and everyone else” if user-level instance blocking was still a thing?
Because user level blocking isn't really blocking. It's just filtering. The bigots can still see the content of people that have blocked their instance, and they can even reply to it. The only person that can't see it is the user who configured the "block"
What exactly is the problem with a bigot replying to you if you don’t see the reply?
Also, they can see the content even if you defederate, because it’s public.
.... the point. Not even going to bother repeating the image.