Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is Microsoft's new data collection service

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I don't use proton so forgive me if this is a stupid question...

But do you need an app? Can't you just use whatever browser you want for their services?

Of course you can access everything through the web on Linux. I really like Proton's web mail interface. Unfortunately, Proton does not have a Linux analog to their windows client that provides automatic file syncing. I think that what the commenter is complaining about.

There is a dedicated Linux client for Proton VPN and in my experience it integrates quite well on Debian-based distributions.

Also, there's Thunderbird if you NEED a fat client for your email. Except Proton's strength is where the service is located and the security of access. Having a full copy locally on your system kind of defeats that.

If you have properly implemented LUKS I don't see any reason that should be a concern.

Unless you also employ very strict sandboxing, a rogue app or script could read those emails from your running system while LUKS is unlocked. There are plenty of CVEs relating to code execution; an infected JPEG, browser exploit, or any number of other things could expose your Thunderbird email database or the running memory to an attacker, particularly if you use "secure" services like Proton because you're the kind of person who would be targeted by state actors.

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You need a special app that they call a "bridge" because Proton doesn't support normal IMAP and SMTP, so you have to use the bridge to be able to use normal email clients.

But they are now porting their webmail as a cross-platform desktop Electron app, after which they'll just likely discontinue the bridge "for safety". And so this issue will become moot.

I'm grateful you put "for safety" in quotes there. That's definitely bullshit talk. I'm further grateful that I just self-host my email. I can skip the bullshit of companies making random decisions that are ultimately against my wishes.

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