Almost half of Haley supporters say they would vote for Biden over Trump: Iowa poll

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Almost half of Haley supporters say they would vote for Biden over Trump: Iowa poll
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Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote for President Biden over former President Trump.

A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president. Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Overall, 71 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers said they would vote for Trump in 2024, while only 11 percent said they would vote for Biden.

“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC. “She does well with the people who define themselves as anti-Trump.”

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Well that’s good news. Now we just gotta see how well she does tomorrow. Biden might actually win in 2024. I’ve been feeling so negative about it because most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up

Also, the weird truth is that the economy did better under both Obama and Biden than it did under trump, but the wingers don't let facts get in the way of their talking points. I've been worried about Haley getting the nomination because I think she could beat Biden. I don't think trump would. For me trump winning is scarier, but more unlikely.

Im scared of a Trump win but terrified of a Trump loss. What will happen if he loses a second general election? I would rather see Haley get the nomination because the Trumpers would write in Trump and Biden would win easily. I’m voting for Haley in my state’s primary lmao

Legit question from a non-American - are Repubs really likely to vote for a woman for president?

A woman republican candidate will lose badly bc they would not.

Not just Republicans. I know several people on both sides of the aisle who only voted for Trump the first time because they didn't want a woman president.

most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up

That's the thing about the collision between reality and politics though: the former doesn't matter.

When I was in the military, they used to always say "Perception is reality." I'm no philosophy major, but I always thought that was exceedingly stupid, especially for the military.

But the more I learn about the world, the more I'm just like...yeah, okay, if you want to be pragmatic, then perception is reality.

So, the fact that most Americans don't understand what caused inflation and attribute it to the president like idiots means everything politically. It's Americans who are voting. And if they can proudly identify Canada on a map and proclaim it's the U.S., then that's what we're stuck with.

Yeah, well said. I’ve given up trying to convince my MAGA mom that had Trump gotten a second term, inflation would still be high. I walked her through everything that happened and asked her what was it that Biden did that made inflation bad. It’s just crickets. They hear “Biden bad, inflation his fault” and that’s enough for them.

Until they can differentiate between a claim and a fact, we’re stuck with their alternative reality

I wouldn't got that far but in general yes. Our ideas of the real world very much shape the world we live in. Which is only the case because all this tech and wealth and organization has shielded us from the real world.