Almost half of Haley supporters say they would vote for Biden over Trump: Iowa poll
Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote for President Biden over former President Trump.
A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president. Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Overall, 71 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers said they would vote for Trump in 2024, while only 11 percent said they would vote for Biden.
“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC. “She does well with the people who define themselves as anti-Trump.”
Almost half, so like what? 250 people?
It's 11% of total GOP caucusgoers who would vote for Biden, it's significant.
It's not like Haley is middle-of-the-road compared to Trump, she's potentially just as right-wing (if not more) as he is, so are Republicans voting for her just looking for any alternative to Trump? Are they potentially more center-spectrum, just because they're willing to vote for a female candidate? It's still early in the process though, I'm sure when we get into the main election, those attitudes could potentially change as it comes down to it.
Haley's policies are far-right. She's a threat in many ways. But she's not a threat to Democracy. She would be a terrible President, but that's still better than a horrible dictator.
Trump has shown that he is a threat to the republic. Haley, not so much, even if her policies are too far right. So it's probably because they want someone to represent their views, but also recognize that Trump is an actual threat and don't feel the same way about Haley. . .which would explain why so many of them would vote for Biden.
Yep. Haley's platforms may be similar to Trump, but she is not against democratic institutions. It's sad that the bar is now at "do they say they will be a dictator day 1", but here we are.
If Haley was president, we would still have to fight tooth and nail, but I would be decently confident we would still have the ability to vote her out in 4 years.
Well that’s good news. Now we just gotta see how well she does tomorrow. Biden might actually win in 2024. I’ve been feeling so negative about it because most Americans don’t understand what caused inflation and “well, the economy was better under Trump” means literally nothing when a global pandemic and regional wars fucked the world up
Also, the weird truth is that the economy did better under both Obama and Biden than it did under trump, but the wingers don't let facts get in the way of their talking points. I've been worried about Haley getting the nomination because I think she could beat Biden. I don't think trump would. For me trump winning is scarier, but more unlikely.
Im scared of a Trump win but terrified of a Trump loss. What will happen if he loses a second general election? I would rather see Haley get the nomination because the Trumpers would write in Trump and Biden would win easily. I’m voting for Haley in my state’s primary lmao
Legit question from a non-American - are Repubs really likely to vote for a woman for president?
A woman republican candidate will lose badly bc they would not.
Not just Republicans. I know several people on both sides of the aisle who only voted for Trump the first time because they didn't want a woman president.
That's the thing about the collision between reality and politics though: the former doesn't matter.
When I was in the military, they used to always say "Perception is reality." I'm no philosophy major, but I always thought that was exceedingly stupid, especially for the military.
But the more I learn about the world, the more I'm just like...yeah, okay, if you want to be pragmatic, then perception is reality.
So, the fact that most Americans don't understand what caused inflation and attribute it to the president like idiots means everything politically. It's Americans who are voting. And if they can proudly identify Canada on a map and proclaim it's the U.S., then that's what we're stuck with.
Yeah, well said. I’ve given up trying to convince my MAGA mom that had Trump gotten a second term, inflation would still be high. I walked her through everything that happened and asked her what was it that Biden did that made inflation bad. It’s just crickets. They hear “Biden bad, inflation his fault” and that’s enough for them.
Until they can differentiate between a claim and a fact, we’re stuck with their alternative reality
I wouldn't got that far but in general yes. Our ideas of the real world very much shape the world we live in. Which is only the case because all this tech and wealth and organization has shielded us from the real world.
They’re lying
doubt
I find Haleys positions pretty level headed compared to the MAGA type. If I were republican, I would probably do the same.
Her voting history while she was serving in South Carolina says otherwise.
People should really know the bills she endorsed on things like abortion, immigration, and LGBTQ+ rights.
One of the shorter excerpts from her wiki:
"Haley has stated that, as a daughter of immigrants, she believes the immigration laws should be enforced.[53] She voted in favor of a law that requires employers to be able to prove that newly hired employees are legal residents of the United States, and also requires all immigrants to carry documentation at all times proving that they are legally in the United States."
If you were a Republican, who would you vote for then?
That's pretty impossible for me to answer because I prioritize the issues in a ranked way to narrow down my candidates, and none of the current Republican candidates are worthy of my vote at all.
Above all else, my number one priority, before anything else, is women's rights.
I suppose if you're putting a gun to my head, I would have said Chris Christie but he dropped out earlier this week.
So if I were a Republican, I just wouldn't vote. I'd sit this one out.
You would vote for the jackal Chris Christie... Mr worst in class. Mr hurricane Sandy himself. Not even his own populace in New Jersey would vote for him. I think that's a really odd choice
I mean, again, my top priority is women's rights. New Jersey has no limit on abortion.
When Haley was Governor of South Carolina, abortion was banned after 20 weeks.
I'm assuming you have different priorities. I just want people to know Haley's endorsements from when she was actually serving, and not base all their thoughts on her debates right now.
She's coming off too moderate. She's been really good at politicking. She's not an idiot.
3rd party 2024 and end the 2 party illusion of choice