Apple is finally allowing Firefox to use its own engine on the iPhone (but only in the EU)

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Apple is finally allowing full versions of Chrome and Firefox to run on the iPhone
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Definitely need to do more, but, consumers could choose android over apple. Apples walled garden bullshit is why the only apple devices I've ever had were a couple of old school ipods and various Macintoshs going back to the IIe.

It sucks moving platforms. I did it going from blackberry to android but with android I can buy any phone I want and it's mine to do with as I please and plenty of phones have community support to keep an android version updated and secure.

As someone who's only owned Androids, it's just a different walled garden. It's a duopoly instead of a monopoly.

You can't really own your phone whatever you do. Even if you root it all your important apps like banking ones will stop working so there really isn't a choice.

Android is a walled garden that has a gate with a latch. If one cares to put in the effort it isn't terribly difficult to root Android and strip the Google stuff.
Apple is a walled garden that simply has empty void on the other side of a 4 foot thick concrete wall. Jailbreaking has limited results and an incredible amount of DRM is integrated at the kernel and hardware level that can never be removed.

That brings about two problems for me. How about phones with locked bootloaders? And the reverse of that, is how do you keep phones with unlocked bootloaders from getting poison-pilled into the supply chain? IE from someone buying a pallet of phones flashing malware infected firmware and just returning it back to the warehouse for the populace at large to use. And some stuff you just can’t degoogle, at least not without a bunch of patching or just straight breaking functionality like what happens in trying to switch to say GrapheneOS (One of the best supported Alt Android distros I have seen) where notifications for most apps don’t work unless you patch back in a lite version of google apps or patch the app to use different protocols, and many apps expecting a “secure” (Google filled) environment will just not run again without patching.