Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are “as painful as possible” for Firefox

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Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are “as painful as possible” for Firefox
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Serious dumb question, how is it considered a monopoly? What forms the monopoly?

The company? If so, what is the proposal? Apple HW team is separate company from SW team? Apple phones and Apple computers are separated?

The app store? There's only one Xbox store on the Xbox, one Nintendo shop on the switch or Wii. It wouldn't make sense to require supporting competition on your hardware. Did N64 games work on the Sega Genesis?

What is constitutes the monopoly and what's the proposed fix?

I'd say that forcing Apple to make it easy to install other operative systems in their hardware would be a good start. And yes, making firmware available for those.

If Apple were to be splitted, I'd separate the whole iPhone branch from the rest of the company.

The app store? There's only one Xbox store on the Xbox, one Nintendo shop on the switch or Wii. It wouldn't make sense to require supporting competition on your hardware. Did N64 games work on the Sega Genesis?

those had enough competitors and weren't the richest companies in the world. Although if it was my decision, I'd force them to open the hardware up too and allow third party software not approved by the manufacturer.

People are paying for the hardware, they should own it and not be imposed artificial limitations.

Did N64 games work on the Sega Genesis?

No, but Playstation games did https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Bleemcast! And Sony sued them but failed

Here's the section for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Bleemcast! is an independently developed commercial emulator by Bleem! that allows one to load and play PlayStation discs on the Sega Dreamcast. It is compatible with most Dreamcast controllers and steering wheels, and leverages the Dreamcast's superior processing power for enhanced graphics. It was created by using the MIL-CD security hole found in the Dreamcast BIOS.

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This is so sad to read... It makes me so angry that even when they won several lawsuits, Sony could just drive them out of business by suing them some more, and threatening stores that wanted to sell their software.

Apple doesn’t have a monopoly they have a platform that a lot of other organisations (including Mozilla) depend on. The EU has legislated restrictions for any platform that is in that position.

They drew a line in the sand for what size a platform needs to be for this new legislation to apply and Xbox isn’t big enough.

It doesn't, the poster just doesn't like Apple (neither do I) and those are apparently magic words for "stop this company I don't like."

Allowing different markets seems like the only alternative to side loading/homebrew. It was easier to develop games back in the day when you didn't have too grovel to the device company overlords, this regulation just takes us back to that (sort of).