How does employing a rapist not constitute an unsafe work environment for female employees?locked

Fosheze@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 316 points –

So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can't fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

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I respectfully disagree. Murder is not at the same level as rape. Rape is awful and despicable, but at least you're alive to recover from it.

That's the thing, many people never recover from rape.

I think more people don't recover from death compared to rape

I'm not arguing that lol. But many people would literally rather be killed than raped and it's frequently cited as one of the things, "worse than death".

It should absolutely be punished similarly.

That sounds like a great way to make all rapists murderers.

No. There's a psychological barrier to killing, even in the mind of a criminal. That's why most murders are actually people who knew each other and had enough emotion to overcome that barrier or people who were scared/abused enough that the barrier was no longer there. (It goes away as a defense mechanism)

  1. Many is not anywhere near all.

  2. That is an option for the victim in a rape still, there is no option for the victim in a murder.

But it is possible to recover, and many do. There is no recovery from being murdered. Personally, I'm glad I'm still alive even if I'm still dealing with my own SA-induced trauma 20 years later.

Murder also has further externalities. When you kill someone, you take them away from their friends and families, who now have to live forever without that person in their lives.

But this whole conversation feels a lot like we're asking "who was worse, Hitler or Genghis Khan?", and it's weird to put either side on the defensive even if there is an objectively true answer to be found.

Yes, but statistically speaking the amount of people who recover from murder (being around 0 to 1, depending on if the Resurrection of Christ is a factual event or mere myth) is a tad lower than people who recover from rape induced trauma...

There is no reason why rape is judged much less severely than torture though.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

You are advocating a known sexual predator be allowed in the workplace, knowing other employees are threatened by his presence.

The company isn't responsible for ensuring the rapist -- who is not supposed to be in society in the first place -- is able to put food on the table. It is the company's responsibility to protect its workers in th workplace, and that means not letting a known rapist work around women.

Honestly, those women could probably go complain to the EEOC. They certainly could win a civil suit.

What you're asking for is horrific and a blatant violation of the rights of other people. We don't live under the barbaric practices of the 20th century where anything like this can just be done to you and you have to put up with it. We live in the 21st century where we recognize the rights of victims and communities are more important.

Don't like it? Do what you're telling rape victims to do: get over it and move on.

Women aren't the only victims of rape. Clearly he shouldn't be allowed to work around anyone right? Actually he shouldn't be allowed to live near anyone who could be at risk either. Actually he shouldn't be allowed to go near anyone who could be raped. I think the Soviets already tried a prisoner only island and it didn't work too well.

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