he thinks people criticizing biden should vote for trump? i don't think that's going to work out the way he hopes.
no. its that a tacit non-democratic vote is a vote for fascism. while true, doesnt mean we cant blame the DNC and Biden for refusing to run a defend-able candidate.
Fuck the DNC and how they shit all over america, putting us in this position.
Fuck the DNC and how they shit all over america, putting us in this position.
You could go ahead and blame boomer generation for putting us in such a bad position. All of that can be traced back to them. Newer generation needs to vote out GOP, and then when GOP dies out, vote for progressive party, and ignore the whims of the boomer generation.
> its that a tacit non-democratic vote is a vote for fascism.
a vote for biden is a vote for fascism. the antifascist candidates i see are cornel west and jill stein.
if you dont hold your nose and vote non-trump, those 3rd parties will never get a chance again. at the very least the DNC do pretend democracy. trump isnt even pretending democracy anymore.
so yeah, vote those 3rd parties one last time.
those so-called third parties are non-trump
ok
This is one of the people who has been trying to convince me that Cornel West has a decent chance of being president. Take from that what you will.
And this person talks about the upballot when the subject matter was downballot. He wasn't able to answer how is Cornell West or Jill Stein relevant when it comes to downballot choices of people who refuses to vote for Biden.
prolly just ignoring the irrelevancy of the downballot in the face of losing democracy altogether.
yet more poisoning of the well, a form of ad hominem.
You're going to need to explain that.
I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary, and that means picking the downballot that has the most chances along with ones that aligns with ones' view the best. You weren't the person I responded to. And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead. And the subject matter of the alternative wasn't really anything to do with the upballot, and you're not able to give a sastisfactory answer as to how they're relevant to this proposal.
poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.
The argument you provided weren't arguments because they didn't align with the subject proposal at hand which is downballot choices. You came with the upballot. That's not an argument to begin with. And I was making a observation of your responses.
anyone can see exactly what happened and that you are just trying to imply that i was involved in some conversation that i never was.
>I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary,
and i said "no".
>And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead.
i never talked about the downballot at all. anyone can see exactly what i quoted, and what i said, and that i'm not getting dragged along into voting for even more democrats.
Of course you didn't. But you responded with upballot instead when the subject matter of the proposal of alternative was to look for downballot. Do I have to repeat that until you get it?
repeat it all you want. anyone can see what happened.
poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.
Splitting the Dem vote with third parties is a good way to get Trump elected. So it’s a sideways way of voting for extreme fascism.
Yep. Duverger's law and history. Third party haven't been able to get significant points to the point where they win the election in first past the post system. So, basically Cornell West and Jill Stein are completely worthless.
he thinks people criticizing biden should vote for trump? i don't think that's going to work out the way he hopes.
no. its that a tacit non-democratic vote is a vote for fascism. while true, doesnt mean we cant blame the DNC and Biden for refusing to run a defend-able candidate.
Fuck the DNC and how they shit all over america, putting us in this position.
You could go ahead and blame boomer generation for putting us in such a bad position. All of that can be traced back to them. Newer generation needs to vote out GOP, and then when GOP dies out, vote for progressive party, and ignore the whims of the boomer generation.
> its that a tacit non-democratic vote is a vote for fascism.
a vote for biden is a vote for fascism. the antifascist candidates i see are cornel west and jill stein.
if you dont hold your nose and vote non-trump, those 3rd parties will never get a chance again. at the very least the DNC do pretend democracy. trump isnt even pretending democracy anymore.
so yeah, vote those 3rd parties one last time.
those so-called third parties are non-trump
ok
This is one of the people who has been trying to convince me that Cornel West has a decent chance of being president. Take from that what you will.
And this person talks about the upballot when the subject matter was downballot. He wasn't able to answer how is Cornell West or Jill Stein relevant when it comes to downballot choices of people who refuses to vote for Biden.
prolly just ignoring the irrelevancy of the downballot in the face of losing democracy altogether.
yet more poisoning of the well, a form of ad hominem.
You're going to need to explain that.
I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary, and that means picking the downballot that has the most chances along with ones that aligns with ones' view the best. You weren't the person I responded to. And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead. And the subject matter of the alternative wasn't really anything to do with the upballot, and you're not able to give a sastisfactory answer as to how they're relevant to this proposal.
poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.
The argument you provided weren't arguments because they didn't align with the subject proposal at hand which is downballot choices. You came with the upballot. That's not an argument to begin with. And I was making a observation of your responses.
anyone can see exactly what happened and that you are just trying to imply that i was involved in some conversation that i never was.
>I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary,
and i said "no".
>And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead.
i never talked about the downballot at all. anyone can see exactly what i quoted, and what i said, and that i'm not getting dragged along into voting for even more democrats.
Of course you didn't. But you responded with upballot instead when the subject matter of the proposal of alternative was to look for downballot. Do I have to repeat that until you get it?
repeat it all you want. anyone can see what happened.
this is classic poisoning the well, a form of ad hominem.
You to me one half hour ago:
https://lemmy.world/comment/7788120
This is not the way to get me to do that.
do you need help finding the block button?
https://lemmy.world/u/bigmouthcommie@kolektiva.social
it's in the upper right
Let me get this straight, you want me to ignore you, so you expect me to block you?
I think you're going to be very disappointed if that's what you expect.
If you want me to ignore you, I will only be forced to if you block me.
Of course, I sincerely doubt you'll block me because then you won't be able to do things like tell me how I support genocide.
But go for it: Prove me wrong.
>Let me get this straight, you want me to ignore you, so you expect me to block you?
oh, that would be lovely. i can't click the button for you though.
>If you want me to ignore you, I will only be forced to if you block me.
thats not how blocking works on lemmy
Prove it. Block me.
poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.
Splitting the Dem vote with third parties is a good way to get Trump elected. So it’s a sideways way of voting for extreme fascism.
Yep. Duverger's law and history. Third party haven't been able to get significant points to the point where they win the election in first past the post system. So, basically Cornell West and Jill Stein are completely worthless.