Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights Starting Next January

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Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights Starting Next January
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Project 2025’s 180-Day Playbook is a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.

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What's more realistic: Shaming everyone in the country until they vote for someone doing genocide, or telling Biden to stop facilitating a genocide?

If you don’t vote, you’re saying that you’re completely fine with allowing others to choose for you. Because whether you know it or not- someone will be elected with or without your participation.

This is not up for debate. This is a HARD fact.

So fold your arms and pout all you wish, but an election is happening- and as many have said, Palestine is going to face a MUCH worse under Trump.

You have completely lost the plot. The election isn't for 7 months.

Instead of convincing Biden to stop the genocide, which he can do right now, today, you're spending your time trying to get people to say they're gonna vote for Biden even if he continues facilitating genocide.

And that's a major over simplification. Biden isn't God he can't snap his fingers and make Israel do what he wants, certainly not without putting the alliance between the US and Israel at risk ... and it's getting to be a dangerous time in the world when having friends is important.

Just today they announced the US would be air dropping aid to Gaza. It's not like nothing is being done. I'd like more to be done, but yeah I'm voting for him either way because the alternative is Trump. I'm not going to pretend I'm not voting for him and the many other things he's done and his policy objectives that I like because of the actions of another country that he's supporting... Matching decades of US policy precedent.

Biden isn’t God he can’t snap his fingers and make Israel do what he wants

He can stop sending them the tools they're using to carry out genocide. Ronald Reagan merely threatened to do it once and they came to heel.

the alliance between the US and Israel

Israel depends on the US for its existence. They will do what is required for financial, military, and diplomatic aid.

it’s getting to be a dangerous time in the world when having friends is important.

How friendly do we look when we're facilitating a genocide, and bombing Yemen for trying to do something about it?

Dropping food does not make up for our client state machine gunning people trying to get food.

If the US really wanted to make friends, they'd oppose the existence of a zionist ethnostate.

https://www.legion.org/landingzone/260767/why-america-cares-about-israel%E2%80%99s-security

What you're proposing would be a pretty radical shake up in the US approach to the middle east. The equivalent of telling all our current friends to fuck off and the people we've been saying fuck off to, hey do you want to be friends and let us place this critical military infrastructure in your country?

Some might even call it insane, because who is going to go for that?

Israel depends on the US but the US also depends on Israel. This isn't a free lunch they've been given and they know it. They've also got the equivalent of Trump as their prime minister currently and I really don't think he cares about any of that anymore than you do.

His country was attacked and his policy is scorched earth. He's not going to stop if the US stops sending help. His "iron dome" will fall though and then he's going to just throw everything he's got at eliminating Palestine.

The only thing more dangerous than an angry nation is an angry nation with nothing to lose and a vendetta.

I don't like any of this. However, for fuck sake Joe Biden is not out there in a cheerleading outfit yelling "go Israel, murder innocent civilians." Things are rarely so simple as "just (don't) do X." Hell, that's half the problem with Trump, he'll just say shit like "well let's just nuke the hurricane." We end up with two problems a nuclear bomb and a hurricane.

If the Israel prime minister was anyone but Netanyahu things might be different.

The equivalent of telling all our current friends to fuck off and the people we’ve been saying fuck off to

It is not. We took the same steps for Apartheid South Africa.

The only thing more dangerous than an angry nation is an angry nation with nothing to lose and a vendetta.

You know what's worse than an angry nation? An angry nation with more weapons.

Joe Biden is not out there in a cheerleading outfit yelling “go Israel, murder innocent civilians.”

He is giving them the bombs they are using to carry out a genocide, there is no meaningful difference.

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