Man I just don't get it. There's a kind of wilful ignorance here or something? It's jarring. All due respect for what's been made but this attitude... I'm not offended or have disdain, just dumbfounded at the messaging.
Opensource is not some public service you just request something and the developers create it for you. If anything attitude like yours are what's burning out opensource developers.
It's their time, work and effort and I am glad they're upfront about it rather than pacify everyone's request beyond what they already do.
This is not about software licensing nor the spirit of FOSS.
There's some inconsistent messaging that's genuinely confusing me. I've shared an anecdote below (from a time when I was developing open source software) in the interest of generating discussion to clear it up for me and perhaps others, too. I don't mean to imply I know what is happening right here.
I kind of feel like I’m walking into a construction site where someone didn’t some amazingly complex joinery, and I trip over the cuttings on the shop floor.
Then I say “you might want to clear a path here,” and I’m told by the woodworker that they never learned to use a dustpan, but it’s over there. “Go sweep for me.”
Ha nice analogy. Might steal it if that's ok! :)
Reminds me of a place I used to work at. Small place; 10 people. I started as a sysadmin but later started programming. They encouraged me; "yes we suck at this we need help!" so I kept going. But as the work became more involved and I needed a bit of co-operation from their side, it was torture. They didn't "suck" at it, they just didn't respect or bother themselves with that kind of work.
I know CSS, but not git. How can I test the webpage css and upload it to your project?
If you paste your suggested CSS improvements with example code into a new GitHub issue, that may lead to another git-savy contributor creating a pull request.
I need the js and html as well as the css for the frontend, but I can't easily see where that's located
You can make a pull request here: https://github.com/Nutomic/ibis/blob/master/assets/ibis.css
Not everyone here is a developer.
And some developers are bad at design/css (like me).
Fair, but I would argue that the basics of CSS positioning aren’t too complex.
And at this point we’re just talking about moving that NAV element to the top of the page, not the left side.
I believe this addresses your concern:
https://lemmy.ml/comment/9231303
Dev publishes unreadable website:
"Some developers are bad at CSS and design/CSS (like me)"
Implying some innate incapacity.
Same dev:
"Or these people could learn Rust and contribute to the existing project."
https://lemmy.ml/comment/8855579
Man I just don't get it. There's a kind of wilful ignorance here or something? It's jarring. All due respect for what's been made but this attitude... I'm not offended or have disdain, just dumbfounded at the messaging.
@Ghostalmedia
@fediverse
Opensource is not some public service you just request something and the developers create it for you. If anything attitude like yours are what's burning out opensource developers.
It's their time, work and effort and I am glad they're upfront about it rather than pacify everyone's request beyond what they already do.
This is not about software licensing nor the spirit of FOSS.
There's some inconsistent messaging that's genuinely confusing me. I've shared an anecdote below (from a time when I was developing open source software) in the interest of generating discussion to clear it up for me and perhaps others, too. I don't mean to imply I know what is happening right here.
@pop @fediverse
I kind of feel like I’m walking into a construction site where someone didn’t some amazingly complex joinery, and I trip over the cuttings on the shop floor.
Then I say “you might want to clear a path here,” and I’m told by the woodworker that they never learned to use a dustpan, but it’s over there. “Go sweep for me.”
Ha nice analogy. Might steal it if that's ok! :)
Reminds me of a place I used to work at. Small place; 10 people. I started as a sysadmin but later started programming. They encouraged me; "yes we suck at this we need help!" so I kept going. But as the work became more involved and I needed a bit of co-operation from their side, it was torture. They didn't "suck" at it, they just didn't respect or bother themselves with that kind of work.
@Ghostalmedia @fediverse
I know CSS, but not git. How can I test the webpage css and upload it to your project?
If you paste your suggested CSS improvements with example code into a new GitHub issue, that may lead to another git-savy contributor creating a pull request.
I need the js and html as well as the css for the frontend, but I can't easily see where that's located
On it
based
Average nutomic response 🗿