I keep reminding people that this technology was already in development, that Elon and is Neuralink isn't a unique invention...
Literally every business he's ever touched. He's not an inventor he's an exploiter.
Sure but everyone bought the iPhone, Steve Jobs was basically not a better person either.
Sure absolutely but also it's a bad idea to be disingenuous just because Elon needs a dick. This technology is impressive because it's fully internal. You don't have to wear some massive hat, it's a compact internal design. Does actually show some significant advancement
I would much rather wear a silly hat than have open skull brain surgery to implant a device that will stop receiving security updates in 5 years.
Go beat up on it it's not at all the same thing. By being internal it allows for much better connectivity.
It's a difference between having a sensor per nerve ending and a sensor that just checks average electrical activity. Completely different.
Bruh, are you really comparing a digital two input wearable device to an implant with fine analog control? This is the biggest leap in brain to computer interface technology, probably ever.
I hate that Neuralink is associated with Elon and the testing they did on animals as absolutely abhorrent, but this is crazy. The guy has been playing Civ 6 ffs.
Can you read?
Wearing a cap designed to measure brain activity players nod their head or blink their eyes, training the equipment to translate brain patterns associated with those motions into movement on-screen.
They only have a two input system because the experiment was made with two inputs in mind. I've seen a comercial wearable neural sensor in action ~9 years ago, being used in experiments by my colleagues. It can do a lot more than that.
I hope you're right, an external system would be infinitely better; did your colleagues' work go anywhere?
No idea, honestly. I know they finished and presented some demos related to detecting and classifying emotions, but I left a few months later.
No, which is why people are trying to find better tech.
EEG is limited, it’s why it went nowhere and people try to point to it as this big huge thing…. Technology won’t advance if we just continually stick with the limitations of old tech. Which unfortunately requires experimentation.
Yes, we've had related technology for a long time. I used one when I was a kid years ago to control a cursor through a maze, although with significant effort. And yet, I don't recall seeing any of these systems reliably play complex games like Mario Kart or Civilization...
To say we've had something similar is akin to something like handwaving modern EVs saying we had EVs back in the 90s, but without mentioning they only went 50 miles per charge, took hours to charge, and had significantly fewer charge cycles. Like, why even do that?
I didn't say there's no difference in the technology used. But the results are quite comparable at the moment. Maybe that can be changed and further developed in future. But is much much more dangerous to implant than to put a cap on your head. So I say don't be fooled by the marketing of Neuralink.
Something similar existed in 2013 already:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/now-you-can-control-video-games-with-your-thoughts-alone-2005031/
I keep reminding people that this technology was already in development, that Elon and is Neuralink isn't a unique invention...
Literally every business he's ever touched. He's not an inventor he's an exploiter.
Sure but everyone bought the iPhone, Steve Jobs was basically not a better person either.
Sure absolutely but also it's a bad idea to be disingenuous just because Elon needs a dick. This technology is impressive because it's fully internal. You don't have to wear some massive hat, it's a compact internal design. Does actually show some significant advancement
I would much rather wear a silly hat than have open skull brain surgery to implant a device that will stop receiving security updates in 5 years.
Go beat up on it it's not at all the same thing. By being internal it allows for much better connectivity.
It's a difference between having a sensor per nerve ending and a sensor that just checks average electrical activity. Completely different.
Bruh, are you really comparing a digital two input wearable device to an implant with fine analog control? This is the biggest leap in brain to computer interface technology, probably ever.
I hate that Neuralink is associated with Elon and the testing they did on animals as absolutely abhorrent, but this is crazy. The guy has been playing Civ 6 ffs.
Can you read?
They only have a two input system because the experiment was made with two inputs in mind. I've seen a comercial wearable neural sensor in action ~9 years ago, being used in experiments by my colleagues. It can do a lot more than that.
I hope you're right, an external system would be infinitely better; did your colleagues' work go anywhere?
No idea, honestly. I know they finished and presented some demos related to detecting and classifying emotions, but I left a few months later.
No, which is why people are trying to find better tech.
EEG is limited, it’s why it went nowhere and people try to point to it as this big huge thing…. Technology won’t advance if we just continually stick with the limitations of old tech. Which unfortunately requires experimentation.
Yes, we've had related technology for a long time. I used one when I was a kid years ago to control a cursor through a maze, although with significant effort. And yet, I don't recall seeing any of these systems reliably play complex games like Mario Kart or Civilization...
To say we've had something similar is akin to something like handwaving modern EVs saying we had EVs back in the 90s, but without mentioning they only went 50 miles per charge, took hours to charge, and had significantly fewer charge cycles. Like, why even do that?
I didn't say there's no difference in the technology used. But the results are quite comparable at the moment. Maybe that can be changed and further developed in future. But is much much more dangerous to implant than to put a cap on your head. So I say don't be fooled by the marketing of Neuralink.