What do you think will happen if we don't pass the aid for Ukraine?

Lemmy@lemm.ee to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 57 points –
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It's incredible how western propagandists managed to convince people that world's biggest country with low aging population is on a mission of territorial conquest.

Putin himself likened himself to Peter the Great, speaking of returning and strengthening once-held territories. Unless you agree with his premise that this land was always Russia, despite the current rulers and wishes of the populations living there, territorial expansion is the only conclusion to his statements.

Maybe should read what Putin actually said instead of linking to a US propaganda outlet.

Well, if you have a more accurate source, please share.

I remember a number of news outlets in various western countries quoting Putin talking about rebuilding the Russian empire, but I didn't bother to save links because I didn't think people would glibly deny his stated intentions a couple years later.

Go to the official Russian transcript that's published maybe? I love how you keep acting like the only source that exists is out of context quotes in western media.

Cool, post a link and I'll run it through a translator.

You're the one who brought this up, so why don't you go look up the whole quote. It'll be a good experience for you to learn how to actually read information from primary sources. You don't even have to run it through a translator because Russia publishes official transcripts in english.

Cause even then you'll probably just whine and complain their translator isnt accurate enough or something.

They've already provided a lot more info than you just saying 'ackshully' which carries a credibility of 0, even if their sources were shit (not saying they are or aren't)

I made my points and defended them with sources that can be verified or dismissed. You make your points, and lay the onus on others to prove you right or wrong, while dismissing any and all support they may provide. To quote Hitcheson's Razor, "what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." Or to put it in a more modern way, "put up or shut up."

You used so many words to say that you refuse to actually find and read the primary source that your whole argument is premised on. The fact that you don't see a problem with that says everything I need to know.

Put up or shut up.

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