Should we replace democracy with science?spiderwort@lemm.eebanned from sitebanned from site to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – -61 points – 5 months ago76Post a CommentPreviewYou are viewing a single commentView all commentsShould we replace bees with mathematics? Those two aren't exactly valid substitutes for each other.Really we should just replace mathematics with bees. I can't think of a problem that can't be solved with more bees.How would you be able to tell there are more bees without mathematics?Easy, more beesAbsolutelyYou add some, then you know for sure.Dr. Bees aggreesHere is an alternative Piped link(s): Dr. Bees aggrees Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.I'm thinking Snoop Dogg - Drop It Lik It's Hot But everytime he says "pop/drop it like it's hot" it should instead be "add a swarm of bees"Honey’s niceI would much rather this than OP's proposal.Ooh look the monkeys like that one. Funny bees! Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy. Sorry for the confusion. Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy They're not though. Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge. Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions. Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.They're also spelled differently, aha!@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine: abortion laws your nation's stance on Israel marriage's effect on taxes individual custody disputes animal cruelty laws Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even Plain ol scienceI'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
Should we replace bees with mathematics? Those two aren't exactly valid substitutes for each other.Really we should just replace mathematics with bees. I can't think of a problem that can't be solved with more bees.How would you be able to tell there are more bees without mathematics?Easy, more beesAbsolutelyYou add some, then you know for sure.Dr. Bees aggreesHere is an alternative Piped link(s): Dr. Bees aggrees Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.I'm thinking Snoop Dogg - Drop It Lik It's Hot But everytime he says "pop/drop it like it's hot" it should instead be "add a swarm of bees"Honey’s niceI would much rather this than OP's proposal.Ooh look the monkeys like that one. Funny bees! Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy. Sorry for the confusion. Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy They're not though. Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge. Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions. Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.They're also spelled differently, aha!@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine: abortion laws your nation's stance on Israel marriage's effect on taxes individual custody disputes animal cruelty laws Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even Plain ol scienceI'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
Really we should just replace mathematics with bees. I can't think of a problem that can't be solved with more bees.How would you be able to tell there are more bees without mathematics?Easy, more beesAbsolutelyYou add some, then you know for sure.Dr. Bees aggreesHere is an alternative Piped link(s): Dr. Bees aggrees Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.I'm thinking Snoop Dogg - Drop It Lik It's Hot But everytime he says "pop/drop it like it's hot" it should instead be "add a swarm of bees"Honey’s nice
How would you be able to tell there are more bees without mathematics?Easy, more beesAbsolutelyYou add some, then you know for sure.
Dr. Bees aggreesHere is an alternative Piped link(s): Dr. Bees aggrees Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Dr. Bees aggrees Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I'm thinking Snoop Dogg - Drop It Lik It's Hot But everytime he says "pop/drop it like it's hot" it should instead be "add a swarm of bees"
Ooh look the monkeys like that one. Funny bees! Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy. Sorry for the confusion. Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy They're not though. Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge. Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions. Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.They're also spelled differently, aha!@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine: abortion laws your nation's stance on Israel marriage's effect on taxes individual custody disputes animal cruelty laws Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even Plain ol scienceI'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy They're not though. Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge. Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions. Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.They're also spelled differently, aha!
@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine: abortion laws your nation's stance on Israel marriage's effect on taxes individual custody disputes animal cruelty laws Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even Plain ol scienceI'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even Plain ol scienceI'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
I'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive. Observe what exactly? Model what? Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals? Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here. Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has. Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?
Should we replace bees with mathematics? Those two aren't exactly valid substitutes for each other.
Really we should just replace mathematics with bees. I can't think of a problem that can't be solved with more bees.
How would you be able to tell there are more bees without mathematics?
Easy, more bees
Absolutely
You add some, then you know for sure.
Dr. Bees aggrees
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Dr. Bees aggrees
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I'm thinking Snoop Dogg - Drop It Lik It's Hot
But everytime he says "pop/drop it like it's hot" it should instead be "add a swarm of bees"
Honey’s nice
I would much rather this than OP's proposal.
Ooh look the monkeys like that one. Funny bees!
Think of them as 2 methods for determining policy. Sorry for the confusion.
They're not though.
Democracy is a strategy some states use to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the populace. Science is a method for producing knowledge.
Policy is determined by the financial interests of our elites, our global imperial interests, and the form of our bureaucratic institutions.
Democracy, science and policy are three very distinct domains.
They're also spelled differently, aha!
@spiderwort could you give me some concrete examples. I can see it with a few things but not others. How does science determine:
abortion laws
your nation's stance on Israel
marriage's effect on taxes
individual custody disputes
animal cruelty laws
Observe, model, propose policies.. run simulations even
Plain ol science
I'm trying to keep an open mind here but so far, you're being too vague to be persuasive.
Observe what exactly?
Model what?
Propose what kind of policies based on what assumptions and which goals?
Obviously I know what science is. I just don't see how it applies here.
Observe what exactly? If you're designing an experiment you know what results you're interested in and what implications the research has.
Seriously, pick one thing from my list above and talk me through how you would use pure science to formulate policy?