Young Democrats face Gaza blowback as they try to mobilize students for Biden

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That's the thing. We aren't getting an alternative. We're getting fascism. Whether we slowly slide into it with the Democrats or speed run it with the Republicans we will have to deal with the issue.

obviously a slow slide gives people time to leave and it offers more chances for the fascist factions to cannibalize each other. From a strategic perspective you never go with the quick option unless you think you can win the fight quickly.

At this point I despair of winning this fight at all. As long as Amazon Prime Video keeps it's ads short enough, most people aren't even going to notice the cops turning ever more into a paramilitary force. The list of rights SCOTUS has broken for the cops during my lifetime is frankly amazing. Not one right from the 1st to the 8th is enforceable in our courts. You can't even protest without getting beat by the police. That fact alone should have the entire country in the streets.

We're already hemmed in, the alarms are already going off and the collective response is to just vote for the guy who lets the fascists organize for a few more years. We're already fucked, the goose was cooked in 2020 and we couldn't see it because Obama did actually try and none of us imagined Biden would just... not.

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What are you doing to deal with it?

Protest, work to get other people elected.

If you think Trump is going to save a single Palestinian, I hope you succeed in getting him elected.

We just won’t read about it any more.

“And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that. They’re doing, that’s why they’re losing the PR war. They, Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” Trump said.

then make do with what you've got

No. This isn't what we have, this is what the wealthy elite have. We're not making do, we're drowning. We've been drowning. But everyone ignored the warnings so here we are.

humans have been making do with much less than what you have for hundreds of thousands of years. making do also does not necessarily exclude political action

That's right up there with, "better clean that plate, there's starving kids in China!"

It's that very history you mention that tells me it's time to stop supporting weak Democrats. Either we get someone strong enough to pull us back from the abyss or we're already fucked. This story has played out time and again from the Roman Empire to Post Colonial Africa. The compromise guy is put in charge and the authoritarian runs him over.

... so let's just speedrun it?

years ago, i lived in a community where someone had spray-painted the dumpster. it said something like "tear it all down and start over." i endorsed that at the time.

now i am way too invested in way too many people to see it go down like that.

Let's not run it. Let's march in the streets instead.

And Trump will improve that how? We already know he’ll make everything else worse.

Oh he won't. But neither will Biden.

Right. So maybe you should look at everything else they have done as president and realize there’s a lot more at stake in this election.

Hitler isn’t so bad if you overlook the Holocaust. He did build the autobahn after all.

Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations in one term, undoing over a decade’s worth of progress.

Biden just reenacted gender discrimination law that Obama created and Trump subsequently repealed.

SCOTUS repealed Affirmative Action, overturned Roe vs. Wade, and left protest law up to the states due to the heavily conservative appointments made by Trump.

Trump’s tax cuts expired for the low and middle classes in 2022, but the larger tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations continue through 2024. Biden’s tax proposal begins in 2025, with cuts for the low and middle class, and heavily increased taxes on the wealthy and corporations.

Russia will succeed in their invasion of Ukraine if the US fails to provide support, which is Trump’s position.

Trump also said the Israel’s biggest problem is recording their atrocities, and they should just finish what they started in Gaza.

I could go all day, but you get the point.

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