Republicans are pulling out all the stops to reverse EV adoption

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Republicans are pulling out all the stops to reverse EV adoption
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That's all great, but the real thing that will stop it is economics. We have a PHEV and I calculated it out and we pay $8 per gallon equivalent compared to $5.50 for regular gas. That's a pretty big difference. Right now we ignore the EV part of the vehicle. (Live in California and I pay $0.50/kwh.)

We're planning on getting solar shortly and that may make it feasible, but until then, it's not.

Good God, your utility company isn’t even using lube when they fuck you with a rusty shovel. Without solar, my time off use plan would make it $0.08/kWh. With solar I don’t even bother figuring out what my cost per mile is because it’s irrelevant till I need a fast charger. I don’t even pay $0.50/kWh at a fast charger usually. I’d be going with a full off-grid solar battery system if I were you. Charging my neighbors cars for free before selling a joule back to those assholes

Yeah what the heck? How does this guy use electric for regular things, let alone a car?

Is electric pricey where you are? It's been a while since I calculated, but last I checked, electric was cheaper in my area than gas for most of the electric vehicles.

50 cents per kWh sounds fucking insane to me. That's like 5-6 times more than I pay in Canada.

I just checked prices in my region. About 0.07 cents per kWh. Without subsidies. Including "Crimea Tax".

A friend was telling me he pays that much in Hawaii, but you'd probably expect as much on an island like that

Yeah for Hawaii that pricing is sort of expected, but for anything mainland that prices is just disgusting

It's shockingly high. I live in the SF bay area and I'm a bit pissed off at how bad we're getting screwed.

Where in California are you? Here in SoCal with SCE their PRIME Time Of Use plan is $0.26/kWH from 9PM - 4PM. Totally works for my family since we work from home and drive EVs locally. We also have a 2019 Prius which gets us about 50-55 MPG and 500+ miles on a full tank for longer drives.

Edit: I should add that the standard Time Of Use plan is $0.38/kWH from 9PM - 4PM. Peak hour usage from 4PM - 9PM is somewhere between $0.53 - $0.62/kWh I think.

We mainly charge our car overnight and it works out well for us.

I'm in the SF bay area.

The off-hours rate for my electricity is $0.04 cheaper than the prime hours rate. It's laughable. $0.51 vs $0.47. Why bother even thinking about it at that pathetic difference? It's certainly not going to change the math much.

Ouch!! That is brutal. Do you see a lot of EVs on the road there?

What kind of electric mileage do you get? My Bolt gets about 3.5 miles per kilowatt hour, and my electricity costs $0.12 per kWh. I figure a car like that would get about 30MPG if it were an ICE vehicle. To go 30 miles would take about 8.5 kWh, which would cost about a dollar. Yes, your electricity is 4x the price (ouch!) but 8x the gas equivalent?

We have a Volvo XC90. Much bigger (and probably heavier) than your Bolt. It gets ~26MPG on the gas only mode. It has an 18.8kWh battery and can go ~30 miles on a charge. So again, bigger, heavier, and less efficient. At $0.50 per kWh, it takes ~$9 for 30 miles, and ~$5.5 in gas to go 26 miles.