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Qualcomm goes where Apple won't, readies official Linux support for Snapdragon X Elite
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Most of the functionality is present but many important bits are still being developed.

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? the age of the Linux phone has been here for years with Android

android is not the linux phone.

The chromebook would the desktop linux workstation if that were true.

Go install blender on a chromebook, i'll wait.

cons:

  • has to enable linux containers
  • can't use native filesystem for emulated applications because it's a completely different environment
  • potential for performance issues given that it's literally a non standard environment
  • wastes a bunch of disk space
  • requires an entire secondary system to be maintained and updated

pros:

  • can technically run linux applications
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Bad example because you can. With the linux container you can install any linux app and it works on a Chromebook. Appears in the app search too. But I definitely get what you mean, Chrome OS and Android may use the Linux kernel but they'll never be Linux

you say bad example, yet you literally have to jump through hoops to do it. I think it's a bad fucking distro of linux, if it requires you to setup and configure and entire fucking container system in order to run non google approved applications, specifically those that debian hosts, because i'm not sure it lets you run other containers.

Chrome OS and Android may use the Linux kernel but they’ll never be Linux

yes, my point here is that android is linux in the same way that you can install blender on chromeos using an entire secondary system, and bullshit containerization, while i can just tell my package manager to install it, and it fucking installs it. And then i can just fucking open it.

By this logic windows is also a fucking linux system because you can use WSL on it.

WSL runs Linux in a VM. They have made it easier but it is by no means native.

By contrast, while the other poster thinks Blender is too hard to install on ChromeOS, it is nevertheless running right on the Linux kernel. The only reason you have to jump through hoops is because Google wants to make it hard.

The same is true when you run Android apps on Linux. They run natively on the kernel. There is really not much difference between running. Android on Linux and running actual Linux apps via Docker or Podman. Running Blender on ChromeOS is the same.

yeah and technically containers aren't native either? They do run natively on the kernel of the existing machine, but the environment around them is entirely manufactured.

ChromeOS itself isn't even clear about whether it's a VM or a container, it says it's both.

My problem here isn't that you can run android apps on linux, or vice versa, my problem here is that android and linux are two fundamentally different systems, this is like putting a 13inch tire on a car that normally uses 21s. It'll "technically" work, but good luck getting around at any effective pace.

By this logic windows is also a fucking linux system because you can use WSL on it.

Okay I never thought of it this way and I actually completely understand your point now.

exactly! It's such a loose definition, even though it fits none of the standard modes of operation for linux. If something that broadly not linux counts as linux, we might as well count BSD as a subset of linux, even though it's completely different.

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