Despite polls, Biden aides insist Gaza campus protests will not hurt reelection bid

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WASHINGTON, May 18 (Reuters) - Several top White House aides say they are confident protests across U.S. college campuses against Israel's offensive in Gaza will not translate into significantly fewer votes for Joe Biden in November's election, despite polls showing many Democrats are deeply unhappy about the president's policy on the war.

The White House optimism on the issue, which is shared by many in the Biden campaign, runs contrary to dire warnings from some Democratic strategists and youth organizers who warn misjudging the situation could cost Biden votes in a tight race with Republican rival Donald Trump.

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This is what "blue no matter who" gets us.

Politicians who don't care what we want because they're entitled to our votes as long as they're not as bad as Republicans.

Right now Schumer and Biden are trying to pass a "border bill" that would make some of the things we gave Trump shit for legal. Like, Biden really wanted to codify that any sitting president can "shit down the border" and prevent any asylum seekers from entering.

A child could see that if that passes, republicans will always say it needs done in office. Millions of people will be hurt by it, but it gives moderate Dems another knife to Dem voters throats:

Vote for me, or republicans will do that thing I just passed a law to let them do!

And there's no guarantee the Dem won't do it anyways.

It's really like watching a real life Brewster's millions, Biden keeps doing shit that's going to cost him the election, but apparently even listening to someone 40 years younger or even slightly to the left isn't something Biden can handle.

He only compromised with Republicans, and then gives them everything they want.

If protests don't work to change Biden's mind, what will?

What other options do voters have?

No… this is what a rigged primary system gets us.

Voting for Republicans at this point - or voting third party - is voting for fascism. There is precisely zero chance that Trump will handle the Gaza Genocide better than Biden will. If Trump wins, I would expect him to order a few B-52 squadrons to carpet bomb Gaza “to help Israel”, and then he’d also probably do the same to the West Bank just because he thinks it’d make him look like a big boy.

Not voting at all is the real worry. It takes effort to vote. And when you can’t even rally your base against trump then you ducked up bad. He literally saying that he does not have to appeal to his base because he has them with the threat of trump. Fine then they just don’t give a fuck any more. Disengagement is the name of the game and we all lose

Yeah, this.

The back half of "Blue no matter who" was supposed to be primarying out regressive Democrats. Much like Labour in the UK, the party is doing its best to disenfranchise and disengage with actual progressives, so this is slow going.

It's not impossible, though: Republicans, to their current horror, let the inmates run the asylum and it shifted their political alignment from "capitalist" to "fascist".

And what exactly do to think not voting at all gets us? Because third part voting is essentially the same thing as not voting. The only difference in a third party vote is that you at least can’t be accused of pouting and staring home.

But you know this already. Don’t you?

I think the point is that voting has now become ceremonial

If that were remotely true the fascist GOP wouldn't spend all their time, money & effort in making sure fewer people voted.

Clinton won California by a 2:1 margin and Trump was still president.

The fascists know how to play the game better than the non-fascists.