"I behaved the correct way, and this did not happen to me. If everyone else did the same as me, they wouldn't suffer. Since their suffering is preventable, they cannot complain and must suck it up."
"See? I'm on your side. Treat me better than you treat them, please."
Source: live in a red US state and have talked to a few conservative women and minorities
You're forgetting the ones who had abortions, but 30 years later regret it because they imagine it would have made their life better if they had the kid.
They think they're "saving" the next generation, when really they have no idea what their lives would have been like if they had their own kid.
Kids are a huge change in lifestyle, and they're just think of.missed positives and not the missed negatives.
It's just how our brains work. Same as with the lockdown curbing how bad COVID was, because we avoided the worst negatives, people think they werent a possible result. And just look back at the potential positives they could have experienced.
They're obviously not right. But that line of thinking is pretty normal.
If we want to fix the problem, we need to properly identify what's causing it.
Lots of time it's just our brains working exactly as they evolved to work.
Oof I forget about these. Or just the plain hypocrites that publicly shame abortion but will secretly get one (or have their partner get one) and go right back to shaming abortion. Or substitute any other thing they have a moral objection to, really.
Their own situation called for it, and it is fine because they are "right." But those other people, it is not fine because they are "wrong."
Sure but I mean… Wouldn’t you want to try to make the world a better place in general? Why do we have to force some people into a suffering underclass?
Cause sky daddy "told" them to.
Don't you dare point out that sky daddy's son said the opposite and hung out with whores, poors, and the sick with sores.
But what genre?
My money would be on either garage Ska-punk or folksey Americana
I think punk is right on and also bluegrass
When one person stands up by themselves or with only a small group around them, the powers that be drop the hammer on them and everyone who was sympathetic and might have supported them gets scared back into line
That's the thing: they think that it is better. They think the reason these people are suffering is because they aren't doing things the right way.
If 9 year old girls could hold an aspirin between their legs, they wouldn't get pregnant. They are sluts so naturally they should give birth because that will make it better.
These people have zero empathy as to the real world challenges that women face. When you ask conservatives why they don't adopt, they say "I have my own children" which tells you everything you need to know: adopted children are not really theirs.
It's not about children. It's about punishment. That 9 year old needs to be punished for having sex.
It's maddening how far they have gotten in the political world.
If 9 year old girls could hold an aspirin between their legs, they wouldn't get pregnant. They are sluts so naturally they should give birth because that will make it better.
This is the craziest thing to me. Babies as punishment for "moral failing."
A baby is not and should never be a punishment. Anyone who thinks a baby is a punishment shouldn't be having babies or forcing others to have babies.
I think, at the surface, conservatives don't say this. They say a child is a blessing, etc.
But when you get down deeper, past their rhetoric, they definitely equate babies as a punishment.
"I suffered, and so should you. Stop complaining!"
It really does come down to this for a lot of folks. Anyone that tries to fix it are considered "whiners" to these folks.
"I behaved the correct way, and this did not happen to me. If everyone else did the same as me, they wouldn't suffer. Since their suffering is preventable, they cannot complain and must suck it up."
"See? I'm on your side. Treat me better than you treat them, please."
Source: live in a red US state and have talked to a few conservative women and minorities
You're forgetting the ones who had abortions, but 30 years later regret it because they imagine it would have made their life better if they had the kid.
They think they're "saving" the next generation, when really they have no idea what their lives would have been like if they had their own kid.
Kids are a huge change in lifestyle, and they're just think of.missed positives and not the missed negatives.
It's just how our brains work. Same as with the lockdown curbing how bad COVID was, because we avoided the worst negatives, people think they werent a possible result. And just look back at the potential positives they could have experienced.
They're obviously not right. But that line of thinking is pretty normal.
If we want to fix the problem, we need to properly identify what's causing it.
Lots of time it's just our brains working exactly as they evolved to work.
Oof I forget about these. Or just the plain hypocrites that publicly shame abortion but will secretly get one (or have their partner get one) and go right back to shaming abortion. Or substitute any other thing they have a moral objection to, really.
Their own situation called for it, and it is fine because they are "right." But those other people, it is not fine because they are "wrong."
Sure but I mean… Wouldn’t you want to try to make the world a better place in general? Why do we have to force some people into a suffering underclass?
Cause sky daddy "told" them to.
Don't you dare point out that sky daddy's son said the opposite and hung out with whores, poors, and the sick with sores.
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But what genre? My money would be on either garage Ska-punk or folksey Americana
I think punk is right on and also bluegrass
When one person stands up by themselves or with only a small group around them, the powers that be drop the hammer on them and everyone who was sympathetic and might have supported them gets scared back into line
That's the thing: they think that it is better. They think the reason these people are suffering is because they aren't doing things the right way.
If 9 year old girls could hold an aspirin between their legs, they wouldn't get pregnant. They are sluts so naturally they should give birth because that will make it better.
These people have zero empathy as to the real world challenges that women face. When you ask conservatives why they don't adopt, they say "I have my own children" which tells you everything you need to know: adopted children are not really theirs.
It's not about children. It's about punishment. That 9 year old needs to be punished for having sex.
It's maddening how far they have gotten in the political world.
This is the craziest thing to me. Babies as punishment for "moral failing."
A baby is not and should never be a punishment. Anyone who thinks a baby is a punishment shouldn't be having babies or forcing others to have babies.
I think, at the surface, conservatives don't say this. They say a child is a blessing, etc.
But when you get down deeper, past their rhetoric, they definitely equate babies as a punishment.
"I suffered, and so should you. Stop complaining!"
It really does come down to this for a lot of folks. Anyone that tries to fix it are considered "whiners" to these folks.
that's so fucking ugly, damn.