‘We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history

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‘We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history
theguardian.com

Interesting article that talks about the similarities between now and 1938, and the sort of lessons we can learn from history.

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I'm sorry, who started a land war in February 2022?

did world history suddenly begin on February 2022?

February 2022? Hmm, did Russia ever stopped invading neighbour countries?

No.

Russia was famously invaded multiple times by the same sorts of people they're fighting now.

Russia has been famously invaded by Ukraine, what?

You are really good at reading between the lines, but I'm referring to the wide array of foreign mercenaries mostly.

None of those foreign mercenaries have invaded Russia. They are inside the borders of Ukraine defending Ukraine from invasion.

I'm not even the native english speaker here, but the line I responded with originally was:

Russia was famously invaded multiple times by the same sorts of people they’re fighting now.

there are French, German, UK, US and a wide array of european mercenaries there, all of those countries have had a part in invading Russia in the past, some of them multiple times.

The the original assertion that russia has never stopped invading places - I pointed out that it's been invaded repeatedly (US/UK/French expeditions during the civil war, Barbarossa, Napoleon to name a few) - which doesn't really line up with that image of an unstoppable invader.

You have to go back over 200 years to get France invading Russia. Russia invaded Paris in 1813. Everyone invaded everyone in the 1800's. Russia was invading all its neighbors in the 1800's.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

The US/UK supporting the Russian Czar during the Civil War isn't an invasion.

The US/UK supporting the Russian Czar during the Civil War isn’t an invasion.

Yeah just like how this is special military operation!

There is no civil war in Ukraine and Putin recognizes Zelensky as the legitimate head of state. So not the same at all.

But the two republics are also recognized and did ask for help as well, hence the SMO- and idk what you would consider 2014-2022 in ukraine but civil war would be a fair description in my opinion.

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Right, next the native americans will take the US back because historically it's theirs? Russia started a war, stop looking for excuses to cope.

that would be ideal, fuck the united states

Before the United States the indigenous people had the Iroquois Confederation. It was a primary model for the founders of the United States. Not sure if or how native repossession changes modern geopolitics but it's a fun idea.

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