Lots of waterproof clothes about to disappear from the shelves. Gore-tex for example is just teflon-coated fabric.
True, but many rain gear makers have moved away from Teflon/Goretex because of the environmentalists who use their products.
Do you have experience with Goretex alternatives? Are there any you would recommend that are also as durable as Goretex?
I think my Patagonia H2No ski pants have been good, but I definitely notice a durability and long-term degradation.
I'd love to start replacing decade+ old Goretex gear with something more environmentally friendly.
don't replace it if it still works. that would completely defeat the intent of being environmentally friendly. getting rid of it entirely just makes it someone else's problem. it will still exist somewhere and still be breaking down.
if it's breaking down and needs to be replaced anyway because it's a decade old then ignore me lol.
Don't worry, we're a few years away from actually falling apart and replacing. I just like to check shit out. Nikwax is great.
Patagonia is good as long as it's not a Goretex. There's also Vaude which is really ahead when it comes to environmentally friendly designs. I think RR is another one.
You will always need to reapply the DWR layer every now and then depending on your use. Most people use Nikwax.
+1 for Nikwax.
First thing that came to mind. Just "clothes" will be lots of stuff disappearing.
Lots of waterproof clothes about to disappear from the shelves. Gore-tex for example is just teflon-coated fabric.
True, but many rain gear makers have moved away from Teflon/Goretex because of the environmentalists who use their products.
Do you have experience with Goretex alternatives? Are there any you would recommend that are also as durable as Goretex?
I think my Patagonia H2No ski pants have been good, but I definitely notice a durability and long-term degradation.
I'd love to start replacing decade+ old Goretex gear with something more environmentally friendly.
don't replace it if it still works. that would completely defeat the intent of being environmentally friendly. getting rid of it entirely just makes it someone else's problem. it will still exist somewhere and still be breaking down.
if it's breaking down and needs to be replaced anyway because it's a decade old then ignore me lol.
Don't worry, we're a few years away from actually falling apart and replacing. I just like to check shit out. Nikwax is great.
Patagonia is good as long as it's not a Goretex. There's also Vaude which is really ahead when it comes to environmentally friendly designs. I think RR is another one.
You will always need to reapply the DWR layer every now and then depending on your use. Most people use Nikwax.
+1 for Nikwax.
First thing that came to mind. Just "clothes" will be lots of stuff disappearing.
GoreTex moved away from Teflon a long time ago.