Biden Ended the Trump Crime Wave

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Opinion | Biden Ended the Trump Crime Wave
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I know you know how the debate went last night, and I'm sure you're delighted. No need to pretend with me.

I think it's funny, but I'm still voting Dem downticket myself because I don't want Trump to have support from Congress.

Democrats should embrace it. I bet Jamal Bowman wouldn't have lost if he withdrew his support for Biden, and all the other progressives at least should do the same. Just make the election about the House and Senate and state level races.

Why do you paper all of lemmy with anti-biden sentiment if you care about preventing trump's influence? I do not buy it. I've seen this behavior from you repeatedly.

They're most likely arguing in bad faith.

"Bad faith is a sustained form of deception which consists of entertaining or pretending to entertain one set of feelings while acting as if influenced by another. It is associated with hypocrisy, breach of contract, affectation, and lip service. It may involve intentional deceit of others, or self-deception. "

Because I'm anti-Biden?

It's possible to be anti-Biden and anti-Trump, it's really frustrating how "if you're not with us you're against us" is the norm.

You can't pretend american politics into being viable for third parties. Until something majorly changes to make third parties have a shred of a chance, pretending they are is destructive and it's definitely often done so on purpose. That's what I'm accusing you of, since over the course of months you given zero reasons to think otherwise and 200 reasons to think so.

I'm not? I think we should focus entirely on electing Democrats down ballot and abandon Biden. Let Trump fail with a Democratically controlled House and Senate.

I honestly don't know how you engage with these people in good faith consistently.

We both know there's no good faith there.

Because they have principles you don't agree with?

"I'll drive this country off a cliff" is not a principle. It's Russian influenced accelerationism

"I won't vote for a genocidal duder" is a perfectly fine position. They don't have to subscribe to harm reduction. Stop shitting on your fucking allies. Jesus.

People making sure trump gets elected, like yourself, are my enemies. Furthest thing from an ally I could have. The typical trump supporter at least isn't wearing a mask pretending to be against fascism.

You've lost it. I tell people to vote for Biden, I'm just not a fucking psycho. You've let this shit steal your humanity.

Once your gaslighting fails completely and Trump actually wins because you couldn't lie about Biden's health well enough for people to not bail I'll at least still be here showing you the compassion you can't show for your own peeps.

Lol ally. I don't claim to be anyone's ally. I'm not on your side, or almost anyone's, I'm legitimately talking about you railing at people who are ostensibly and obviously on your side with more hate and vitriol than you could probably find for actual goose stepping nazis. It's pathetic and disgraceful and you need to step back and evaluate how you treat people.

I'm just not a fucking psycho.

Okay, I said you're pro trump, which, in action, you are. Basic logic I won't go over for the millionth time

You've let this shit steal your humanity.

Oh, so you actually are a psycho. That's why you said that.

The rest of your comment is a bunch of wild accusations having zero relationship with my reality. Bye.

Okay, I said you're pro trump, which, in action, you are.

Yes, me arguing with people IRL that Biden is a better choico is de facto Trump support.

Oh, so you actually are a psycho. That's why you said that.

No. I said it because you're treating people poorly. This isn't healthy for you or your party or political goals.

You have less self awareness than either of those old fucks on stage.

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