MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

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WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

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I bet there will be a retaliatory attack on his Biden

I mean, the right is already committing violence against its enemies, the media just fails to report it as what it is. Instead it's "lone wolves" and "mental health problems". Rittenhouse literally shot people on camera and got away with it "because skateboard".

Daniel Perry murdered someone after driving his car into a crowd and was pardoned because Abbott agreed with his politics.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster

The right is perfectly fine with violence that supports them.

The fact that he claimed self-defense really goes to show how far the MAGA attitude of being "victimized" goes. Literally plows his car into a crowd of people and then claims self-defense when shooting someone.

well to be fair it's not unusual to get away scot free after murdering people with your car, that shit happens all the time

He didn't murder anyone with his car. He drove into a crowd then shot someone.

I doubt it. Something like this already happened before in 2017. A deranged Bernie supporter went to a congressional baseball game and tried to shoot as many Republicans as he could. He ended up killing 6 people. However, despite that, there were no reactionary shootings. It was an isolated incident. I think this will be the same, or at least I hope.

You do realize the Las Vegas shooting was literally like 3 months later, right?

We literally have no idea what Stephen Paddock's motivation was. The Las Vegas shooting was not a reaction to the congressional shooting

Please don't repeat the names of mass shooters.

I disagree, I think their names should be known and their crimes studied. We can't erase what they did, nor should we. We have to discuss and research these fucked up individuals otherwise how are we going to come up with a solution for the root cause of the issue?

Study them, yes. But that doesn't require making their names and faces commonplace. Most research is done without broadcasting people's names and faces to the world. Heck - when I was doing analysis for HHS I wasn't given anybody's name or picture at all.

Some of these killers are seeking fame and attention, and by giving it to them we encourage others.

But giving infamy to that Brock rapist guy is okay right? Just double checking.

Didn't get change his name recently? The rapist guy named Brock or something?

Read your first sentence, then read your second sentence. Then do it again a few more times, and then ask yourself why I would listen to anything you say?

So you, knowing more than all of the alphabet boys who combed over his personal life for a concrete motive; you know that it was a reaction for a fact, then, yes? Clearly, you must be able to read minds or talk with the dead, then.

No? You don't have otherworldly powers?

tsk well, golly, sport, that sure don't make a whole lot of sense.

There's nothing wrong with what I said. You can't give criminals motives nor can you give different crimes connections based on your personal opinions. The matter of fact here is that despite numerous investigations, we still don't know why the Las Vegas shooter did what he did. If evidences surfaces that he was indeed motivated and inspired by the congressional shooting that happened shortly prior then we can establish such a connection, but until that happens we can't.

With the number of shootings that happen in the US... Pointing out a seemingly unrelated incident that occurred months later is ridiculous cherry picking.