Who I support is irrelevant and how they're polling is irrelevant. I vote my conscience, not who is most popular, it's that popularity contest that gets people voting against their own interests. Because they're only concerned about being on a winning team, not necessarily what that winning team is going to do to the marginalized and the working class.
The most progressive champion of the marginalized and working class is irrelevant if they don't win the popularity contest. My conscience requires I actually accomplish something with my actions.
Fighting over and defending the bread crumbs they toss us is not progress
Real crumbs are more useful than purely hypothetical loaves.
The rich getting richer while we getting keep getting poorer is not hypothetical
That's totally unrelated to my statement.
Yea what kinda response is this? Did the OP reply to the wrong thread?
They have an agenda. They don't care about the question so long as they can turn it to the subject they want to talk about.
You are trying to claim there can be no progress unless we elect enough Democrats, that's happened before and all we've gotten is crumbs.
And when we don't elect enough Democrats we don't even get crumbs. What's your point?
And it's fear of losing your crumbs why people will never find their proverbial balls and do what's right for people and society
Easier to do what's right when you've got crumbs to nibble on than when you're starving. Accelerationism is a deranged and wildly privileged alternative.
Liberals have somehow convinced themselves that a slow death via poisoning is somehow better than a fast death via poisoning. The prolonged agony of society because of that poison continues to poison generation after generation.
Slow death buys time for other action, it's objectively better. No one's saying you're not allowed to take other actions too. They'll be harder to enact under P2025, it's a no brainer.
You unwittingly just told us everything we need to know. You don't want to actually solve problems. You want to eliminate the people who created the problems. And getting rid of the people who enabled the problems doesn't fix the problems.
This is why you don't understand harm reduction and aren't actually doing anything to help address the problems. You don't want to solve the problems. You just want to get one over on those who've screwed us over.
It's an understandable sentiment, by all means, but this is why fictional stories tend to be critical of revenge. You become so lost in punishing someone that you value vengeance over actually addressing what that person did.
The nobles burnt the village and hurt some of the villagers for fun. Instead of rebuilding what they destroyed and helping treat the injured, you just want to kill the nobles. It'll feel good to succeed, but the village will still need rebuilding, and the people who needed healing will be dead.
Someone who cares more about overthrowing the industrialists, at the expense of their fellow proletariat, is no communist. They're just one of Stalin's useful thugs, and the only thing they'll succeed in changing is who's causing the problems -- not solving the problem itself.
TLDR: You don't actually care about leftist ideals, you just want revenge.
Who do you support, and how are they polling?
Who I support is irrelevant and how they're polling is irrelevant. I vote my conscience, not who is most popular, it's that popularity contest that gets people voting against their own interests. Because they're only concerned about being on a winning team, not necessarily what that winning team is going to do to the marginalized and the working class.
The most progressive champion of the marginalized and working class is irrelevant if they don't win the popularity contest. My conscience requires I actually accomplish something with my actions.
Fighting over and defending the bread crumbs they toss us is not progress
Real crumbs are more useful than purely hypothetical loaves.
The rich getting richer while we getting keep getting poorer is not hypothetical
That's totally unrelated to my statement.
Yea what kinda response is this? Did the OP reply to the wrong thread?
They have an agenda. They don't care about the question so long as they can turn it to the subject they want to talk about.
You are trying to claim there can be no progress unless we elect enough Democrats, that's happened before and all we've gotten is crumbs.
And when we don't elect enough Democrats we don't even get crumbs. What's your point?
And it's fear of losing your crumbs why people will never find their proverbial balls and do what's right for people and society
Easier to do what's right when you've got crumbs to nibble on than when you're starving. Accelerationism is a deranged and wildly privileged alternative.
Liberals have somehow convinced themselves that a slow death via poisoning is somehow better than a fast death via poisoning. The prolonged agony of society because of that poison continues to poison generation after generation.
Slow death buys time for other action, it's objectively better. No one's saying you're not allowed to take other actions too. They'll be harder to enact under P2025, it's a no brainer.
Do you want to stop that from happening?
Eliminate the ones that enabled the problems.
You unwittingly just told us everything we need to know. You don't want to actually solve problems. You want to eliminate the people who created the problems. And getting rid of the people who enabled the problems doesn't fix the problems.
This is why you don't understand harm reduction and aren't actually doing anything to help address the problems. You don't want to solve the problems. You just want to get one over on those who've screwed us over.
It's an understandable sentiment, by all means, but this is why fictional stories tend to be critical of revenge. You become so lost in punishing someone that you value vengeance over actually addressing what that person did.
The nobles burnt the village and hurt some of the villagers for fun. Instead of rebuilding what they destroyed and helping treat the injured, you just want to kill the nobles. It'll feel good to succeed, but the village will still need rebuilding, and the people who needed healing will be dead.
Someone who cares more about overthrowing the industrialists, at the expense of their fellow proletariat, is no communist. They're just one of Stalin's useful thugs, and the only thing they'll succeed in changing is who's causing the problems -- not solving the problem itself.
TLDR: You don't actually care about leftist ideals, you just want revenge.