I mean, if you make an appeal and end up disappointed because the country doesn’t see any kind of violation to human rights… How do you call that?
That's called disappointment, that's how it works
Oh, and I never said Mexico or UK were better places for him, I said he is British-Mexican, so he probably had better places to go.
Try talking to a queer person some time, shit is bad for us everywhere right now.
Lastly, yeah, Qatar is a shithole country, and the only thing you need to know this is that no decent country makes being gay a crime.
Queer people are marginalized in every country right now. You clearly aren't actually that interested in queer politics or you would know that.
Are you sure you’re not mad?
Yes, I'm mad that you're victim blaming a gay man who was tortured and keep dropping racist dogwhistles. Are you enjoing telling the faggots how stupid they are?
That's called disappointment, that's how it works
If he's disappointed it's because he expected a different result from the appeal. Which is what I said.
Try talking to a queer person some time, shit is bad for us everywhere right now.
You're wrongly assuming that I don't know any queer person or their struggles. But go on...
Queer people are marginalized in every country right now. You clearly aren't actually that interested in queer politics or you would know that.
Are you telling me that a queer person has the same struggles in say, Spain, or Netherlands, or France, that in fucking Qatar where they can be executed for the sole crime of being queer? And I should be the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
Yes, I'm mad that you're victim blaming a gay man who was tortured and keep dropping racist dogwhistles. Are you enjoing telling the faggots how stupid they are?
Again, I'm not blaming him for being gay. He did a stupid choice, he went to one of the worst countries there are to be gay right now and that was very stupid. What happened to him, while despicable, was a product of his choice. Being gay isn't and never will be a crime, but I can't change the laws of Qatar, so if Qatar considers being gay a crime and you are gay, maybe, don't go there?
To me, it looks like you're just trying to find someone to direct your hate to. It's fine. After all, you're just an internet stranger so I don't harbor any feelings for you, but I think you are making a mistake here.
Can you try feeling compassion for 5 seconds?
Is feeling compassion incompatible with anything else?
What happened to this man is a tragedy nobody should experience (this is compassion).
The reason why this happened was totally avoidable, Qatar is a country everyone should avoid (everyone includes queer people too) because they have crap laws and don't care about human rights. (This has to be said because we need to educate people so they don't suffer this again)
Do you have the power to change Qatar laws so they don't consider being gay a crime? I'd love a different solution, for example one that makes Qatar a livable place for everyone, but until this happens, the best thing we can do is not going there, especially if your mere existence is a crime for them.
Edit: punctuation.
You couldn't go one post without victim blaming him. And tbh if you have to tell people you're being compassionate right before you launch into victim blaming, you are not being compassionate.
You're mad at me because you don't like what I'm saying.
And instead of trying to understand that maybe sometimes a victim can be criticised for what they suffered, so they learn from it to never repeat it, you double down on your attacks refusing to see anything wrong in this person's behaviour. You even go as far as saying that every country is the same when it comes to queer people treatment, as if Qatar was remotely comparable to any UE country in which they can live a full life like any other citizen.
I'm mad at you because what you're saying is fucked up, yes. I'm just asking you to show basic empathy for another human being.
You've clearly never talked to a queer person in the EU if you think they aren't marginalized. Now you're just denying oppression.
You really don't know what you're talking about. But that's fine, go on.
I am saying that Qatar is not comparable to EU. And if you refuse to see that, then you're part of the problem. How many EU countries can you name in which being gay is punished with death?
If you really think that queer people is oppressed the same way in a democratic civilised country than it is in an autocratic regime as the one of Qatar, you are just denying any kind of progress, and hurting queer people more than helping them.
You should be ashamed of even considering that.
You look like someone looking for enemies, and that's only going to hurt yourself, not me.
And now you're just purposefully twisting what I said. Again. I preferred when people like you just called us faggots, it was a lot less annoying.
Can you point out what did I twist? Maybe when I said that there are surely better places to go for a queer person than Qatar and then you said that you are marginalized everywhere?
And then I pointed out that surely it's not the same a country like Spain than a country like Qatar? But you kept going with it?
You are literally attacking me for things I didn't say lmao
Do I really need to screenshot those messages? Don't make me do such thing, please.
That's called disappointment, that's how it works
Try talking to a queer person some time, shit is bad for us everywhere right now.
Queer people are marginalized in every country right now. You clearly aren't actually that interested in queer politics or you would know that.
Yes, I'm mad that you're victim blaming a gay man who was tortured and keep dropping racist dogwhistles. Are you enjoing telling the faggots how stupid they are?
If he's disappointed it's because he expected a different result from the appeal. Which is what I said.
You're wrongly assuming that I don't know any queer person or their struggles. But go on...
Are you telling me that a queer person has the same struggles in say, Spain, or Netherlands, or France, that in fucking Qatar where they can be executed for the sole crime of being queer? And I should be the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
Again, I'm not blaming him for being gay. He did a stupid choice, he went to one of the worst countries there are to be gay right now and that was very stupid. What happened to him, while despicable, was a product of his choice. Being gay isn't and never will be a crime, but I can't change the laws of Qatar, so if Qatar considers being gay a crime and you are gay, maybe, don't go there?
To me, it looks like you're just trying to find someone to direct your hate to. It's fine. After all, you're just an internet stranger so I don't harbor any feelings for you, but I think you are making a mistake here.
Can you try feeling compassion for 5 seconds?
Is feeling compassion incompatible with anything else?
What happened to this man is a tragedy nobody should experience (this is compassion).
The reason why this happened was totally avoidable, Qatar is a country everyone should avoid (everyone includes queer people too) because they have crap laws and don't care about human rights. (This has to be said because we need to educate people so they don't suffer this again)
Do you have the power to change Qatar laws so they don't consider being gay a crime? I'd love a different solution, for example one that makes Qatar a livable place for everyone, but until this happens, the best thing we can do is not going there, especially if your mere existence is a crime for them.
Edit: punctuation.
You couldn't go one post without victim blaming him. And tbh if you have to tell people you're being compassionate right before you launch into victim blaming, you are not being compassionate.
You're mad at me because you don't like what I'm saying.
And instead of trying to understand that maybe sometimes a victim can be criticised for what they suffered, so they learn from it to never repeat it, you double down on your attacks refusing to see anything wrong in this person's behaviour. You even go as far as saying that every country is the same when it comes to queer people treatment, as if Qatar was remotely comparable to any UE country in which they can live a full life like any other citizen.
I'm mad at you because what you're saying is fucked up, yes. I'm just asking you to show basic empathy for another human being.
You've clearly never talked to a queer person in the EU if you think they aren't marginalized. Now you're just denying oppression.
You really don't know what you're talking about. But that's fine, go on.
I am saying that Qatar is not comparable to EU. And if you refuse to see that, then you're part of the problem. How many EU countries can you name in which being gay is punished with death? If you really think that queer people is oppressed the same way in a democratic civilised country than it is in an autocratic regime as the one of Qatar, you are just denying any kind of progress, and hurting queer people more than helping them. You should be ashamed of even considering that.
You look like someone looking for enemies, and that's only going to hurt yourself, not me.
And now you're just purposefully twisting what I said. Again. I preferred when people like you just called us faggots, it was a lot less annoying.
Can you point out what did I twist? Maybe when I said that there are surely better places to go for a queer person than Qatar and then you said that you are marginalized everywhere? And then I pointed out that surely it's not the same a country like Spain than a country like Qatar? But you kept going with it?
You are literally attacking me for things I didn't say lmao
Do I really need to screenshot those messages? Don't make me do such thing, please.
Oh, now we’re dropping cishet like an insult?
When cishets are telling actual queer people about the oppression we face? Yeah, I'll drop cishet (derogatory).