Biden at the Democratic convention was unrecognisable from his disastrous debate

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Biden at the Democratic convention was unrecognisable from his disastrous debate
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Biden’s voice was strong and clear, and the crowd was far warmer to him as an outgoing president

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And it's not like he delivered flawlessly, he still has at least one part where he seemed to get lost, and the crowd covered for him.

Did have real mixed feelings about the "Thank You Joe" chant. It was kind of wholesome in a way, but I imagine it feels bad to have been pushed out like he was.

I hope he recognizes that he needed to do it. Even in 2020, "making" him run (I put making in quotes because you can't make a person run for office) felt like elder abuse. That is even more true now.

They needed him to run to stop a Bernie nomination. So... he kind of was "made to", in that he also agreed that Bernie shouldn't get the nomination.

And I'm in agreement with Biden, I think. I love Bernie and think he would have made a great president, but with how close 2020 was for Biden, I doubt he would have won the election. In fact I think part of why Kamala's doing well is for the same reason that Biden did well in 2020: Trump wanted to run against Bernie in 2020, and he wanted to run against Biden in 2024. Trump struggles when things don't go the way he expects them to, and I remember in 2020 a lot of trump's arguments were about how Biden was too far left, almost like he wanted to be making those arguments about Bernie instead

Polls showed Bernie had the largest lead in a head to head against Trump in 2016 and 2020 iirc. He's the most popular politician in the US.

I remember in 2020 a lot of trump's arguments were about how Biden was too far left, almost like he wanted to be making those arguments about Bernie instead

That's boilerplate conservative talking points. He would've said that regardless of who he was running against.

Sanders is older than Biden. So if running Biden was elder abuse...

I think it'd be hard to look at the current state of things and think he made a mistake. At least he seems willing enough to get along.

I've no shortage of criticism for the man and his actions, but this one I can applaud.

Part of me might think maybe he is a little bit relieved. It's tiring on even a younger man. Now he can just focus on the rest of the year and he gets a much needed vacation and family time

I imagine it feels bad to have been pushed out like he was.

I'm sure it feels bad but he shouldn't have been running again in the first place. The dead horse has been beaten to powder but he is way too old to be running a country - especially 4 years from now.