Trump refuses to say if he wants Ukraine to win the war

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I don't need to explain anything. Again, I'm just citing facts, and you're guessing. But honestly, how much do you think your armchair analytics are really worth? Or anyone's for that matter?

I just cited facts too.

Harris wants Russia out of Ukraine.

Trump refuses to say what he wants Russia to do.

Why would Putin sincerely endorse Harris? I think you know the answer is that he wouldn't.

Because you, quote 'don't live under a rock', was that the citation you consider a fact?

Again:

Harris says Ukraine should win.

Trump will not say who should win.

This happened last night. I heard it with my own ears.

So, again, why would Putin support the person who wants him to lose the war? Because, again, I think you know the answer.

They could actually just be dumb and ignorant, but I think we both know they have their motives.

But holy mother of god!; what's your source I mean?

My source of what? Those two claims? Again, the debate last night. Putin's obviously bullshit endorsement of Harris? I can give you a source, but I'm not sure what your whole point here is if you didn't know about that.

Yes, of course, your source of why Putin made the endorsement, the source I asked for about 5 comments ago....

And, as I have explained to you multiple times, I do not need a source when I can make a basic inference from the facts at hand.

If you can come up for another explanation for why Putin would endorse the person who wants him to lose the war, let's hear it.

Otherwise, you're just harassing me because I said something mean about Putin.

Does it ever occur to you to just concede for once and save so nich time and effort: 'No, sorry, I don't have a source for my claim, I simply made a conjecture that I believe to be correct'.

I bet it never even crossed your mind because you're so goddamned sure of yourself since apparently 'you don't live under a rock'.

And now you are violating our civility rules. If you continue to harass me or are uncivil to anyone else, you will be taking a break.

I would appreciate it if you would give me an alternate reason for Putin supporting Harris please.

Sure, go ahead by all means, or you could take this as an opportunity to learn and grow as a person.

I am connected to the Russian hivemind, can confirm that we prefer Harris to Trump, he's just too unpredictable.

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I don't need to explain anything.

Don't be coy; you simply cannot.

You exist in bad faith, this goes so far beyond debate at this point lmao

I just cited a quote. What do you want from me exactly(?) holy fuck...

There's a big difference between citing facts and citing a statement. You likely have no evidence that the statement is a fact, besides taking the ex-kgb leader of an adversarial nations word at face value, which...does sound a little silly when you say it out loud like that, doesn't it? Keep in mind this nation has definitely messed with our elections in the past too lol.

The statement is the fact, and I put no more value to it than that. Make of that what you will, I really don't care

You are citing a statement, and it is a fact that the statement was said, but the content of that statement is not a fact because there's very little evidence to support it being a fact. Lies exist, especially from the election meddling, ex KGB foreign adversary national leader types.

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