Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world – 934 points –
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You'd need to grow the third party / greens by having them become a viable party in local elections and state elections first. The greens have failed to do that. Which means they have no chance except to spoil the election.

Big money donors will never allow green candidates to get into significant office. Money runs politics and billionaires own entire state houses these days

True. I think about it now as a kind of physics problem. You have political energy measured in dollars on each side. Volunteers to help bring the political message across for free can be converted into dollars too. There are a lot of people concerned or outright scared out of their minds about environmental concerns like climate change. One sight has multiple orders of magnitude more political energy to spend. For example on counter measures, or boosting extreme vegan voices to cause disruption, advertising or media stories or think tanks or lobbyists. And the "technology" to manage this political energy is rapidly advancing too. So no amount of "this is the right / wrong choice" argument is going to change anything. There is only power.

There are big money donors, which are not billionaires. The most common one are unions.