If people work across state lines, or travel at all, they need hospital services. You didn't say it, but a moment of thought would have revealed the implications.
If they are in the state and have an emergency, fine. But anything else they really need to burden their own tax payers.
Ok so why not just federalize health and bypass this me me meeeeee histrionic problem?
I’m fine with that as long as states don’t get to make laws that affect federal hospitals thereby pushing people to other states to create an unneeded burden on the out of state hospital.
Just... Pay for capacity in your population centers in some equitable way.
OH, OH!!! you could run for healthcare as a public service instead of a profit center 🤡
I don’t think you know what a hospital looks like when it is over capacity 🤡 but keep on talking like you know stuff.
Yeah I make a point to avoid backwater 3rd world countries like the USA
Where do you live?
You could do your own homework and make an educated guess, but you won't, so I guess I have to spoon feed you an answer of "Canada"
Why would I make assumptions about where you live when I can just ask you?
And for a Canadian, you have a pretty unhealthy obsession with the United States. 🍁🤡
That's pretty rich.
Do your homework slob.
What homework? lol. Maybe you should go to bed. You’ve got school tomorrow.
Looking at a profiles' post history is super basic.
If the hospitals in Washington are routinely over capacity, then thats a Washington problem. People have the freedom here to seek treatment wherever they would like to.
And everyone has to pay, inside or outside the state. Noone gets out of medical debt just by crossing state lines.
Every hospital in the world has a capacity they can support. You must be saying “they need a bigger hospital!” Which I’m sure they are aware of, but building that and staffing that isn’t always feasible with the budget they are given.
And not everyone has to pay. The hospital there is a charity and provides care regardless of the ability for the patient to pay—which cuts into that budget for more staffing and buildings.
During Covid, Idaho pretty much threw their hands up and said “go to Spokane” where people were lining the halls on beds dying because they didn’t have enough respirators for that many people.
So, it’s a common opinion in Spokane that Idaho needs to fuck off and take care of their own.
Charity and providing care to those who present themselves are not the same thing. You might be right though that they don't bill some people, but that would work the same for citizens of both states.
Do I have it right that you blame Idahoans for coming to Washington hospitals which might mean more Washingtonians die?
Does it really matter what state the person is from who dies?
You’re not understanding the reality of how the current system works. You’re arguing from a place of fantasy.
In an ideal world, this wouldn’t even be a problem. Healthcare would be free, and hospitals would be over staffed with low patient ratios and plenty of beds.
Don’t complain to me about reality.
So you are saying your state was perfectly capable of handling its own covid patients? I wasnt aware of any state that wasnt pushed to capacity, but feel free to correct me.
Eastern Washington state borders Idaho. Idaho consistently fought Masking and quarantine. Many people from Idaho would become infected with Covid and rely on a state that did participate in masking and quarantine to help them when their own government refused to provide adequate services and policies. Washington state was already dealing with its own people, and had a hard enough time providing support without a bunch of Idahoans flooding in when they found out the hard way.
While I empathize with the individual, I feel there should have been Covid tests at the border.
You’re starting to sound like a Covid denier who doesn’t understand that while we are “united” under one federal government, each state has vastly different ideas of sanity.
You are starting to sound like someone who says Washingtons citizens lives are worth more than Idahos. You believe this because people in Idaho did not seem to care about their lives as much as people in your state. This is shown in the way Idaho handled mitigating covid.
Is any of that wrong?
I don't disagree with the facts, just who's to blame for it. But if you want to blame a bunch of sick and dead folk from a neighboring state, I can't stop you.
Maybe I'm wrong but he's not blaming the people but Idaho's government.
Correct.
And who elected those people? They came from space?
I guess they didn't say "elect me and I will do exactly this".
The point is they aren't separate things, its not a dictatorship. And this is why the original poster said they don't blame individuals, but also said they should have covid tested at the border to prevent them from getting help.
I'll take the actions over the words, even if they were just hypothetical actions.
If people work across state lines, or travel at all, they need hospital services. You didn't say it, but a moment of thought would have revealed the implications.
If they are in the state and have an emergency, fine. But anything else they really need to burden their own tax payers.
Ok so why not just federalize health and bypass this me me meeeeee histrionic problem?
I’m fine with that as long as states don’t get to make laws that affect federal hospitals thereby pushing people to other states to create an unneeded burden on the out of state hospital.
Just... Pay for capacity in your population centers in some equitable way.
OH, OH!!! you could run for healthcare as a public service instead of a profit center 🤡
I don’t think you know what a hospital looks like when it is over capacity 🤡 but keep on talking like you know stuff.
Yeah I make a point to avoid backwater 3rd world countries like the USA
Where do you live?
You could do your own homework and make an educated guess, but you won't, so I guess I have to spoon feed you an answer of "Canada"
Why would I make assumptions about where you live when I can just ask you?
And for a Canadian, you have a pretty unhealthy obsession with the United States. 🍁🤡
That's pretty rich.
Do your homework slob.
What homework? lol. Maybe you should go to bed. You’ve got school tomorrow.
Looking at a profiles' post history is super basic.
If the hospitals in Washington are routinely over capacity, then thats a Washington problem. People have the freedom here to seek treatment wherever they would like to.
And everyone has to pay, inside or outside the state. Noone gets out of medical debt just by crossing state lines.
Every hospital in the world has a capacity they can support. You must be saying “they need a bigger hospital!” Which I’m sure they are aware of, but building that and staffing that isn’t always feasible with the budget they are given.
And not everyone has to pay. The hospital there is a charity and provides care regardless of the ability for the patient to pay—which cuts into that budget for more staffing and buildings.
During Covid, Idaho pretty much threw their hands up and said “go to Spokane” where people were lining the halls on beds dying because they didn’t have enough respirators for that many people.
So, it’s a common opinion in Spokane that Idaho needs to fuck off and take care of their own.
Charity and providing care to those who present themselves are not the same thing. You might be right though that they don't bill some people, but that would work the same for citizens of both states.
Do I have it right that you blame Idahoans for coming to Washington hospitals which might mean more Washingtonians die?
Does it really matter what state the person is from who dies?
You’re not understanding the reality of how the current system works. You’re arguing from a place of fantasy.
In an ideal world, this wouldn’t even be a problem. Healthcare would be free, and hospitals would be over staffed with low patient ratios and plenty of beds.
Don’t complain to me about reality.
So you are saying your state was perfectly capable of handling its own covid patients? I wasnt aware of any state that wasnt pushed to capacity, but feel free to correct me.
Eastern Washington state borders Idaho. Idaho consistently fought Masking and quarantine. Many people from Idaho would become infected with Covid and rely on a state that did participate in masking and quarantine to help them when their own government refused to provide adequate services and policies. Washington state was already dealing with its own people, and had a hard enough time providing support without a bunch of Idahoans flooding in when they found out the hard way.
While I empathize with the individual, I feel there should have been Covid tests at the border.
You’re starting to sound like a Covid denier who doesn’t understand that while we are “united” under one federal government, each state has vastly different ideas of sanity.
You are starting to sound like someone who says Washingtons citizens lives are worth more than Idahos. You believe this because people in Idaho did not seem to care about their lives as much as people in your state. This is shown in the way Idaho handled mitigating covid.
Is any of that wrong?
I don't disagree with the facts, just who's to blame for it. But if you want to blame a bunch of sick and dead folk from a neighboring state, I can't stop you.
Maybe I'm wrong but he's not blaming the people but Idaho's government.
Correct.
And who elected those people? They came from space?
I guess they didn't say "elect me and I will do exactly this".
The point is they aren't separate things, its not a dictatorship. And this is why the original poster said they don't blame individuals, but also said they should have covid tested at the border to prevent them from getting help.
I'll take the actions over the words, even if they were just hypothetical actions.