Chappell Roan Says She’s “Voting For F@cking Kamala,” But No VP Endorsement & “F@ck Trump, For F@cking Real”

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I fail to see a reason why I should give a single fuck about what this person thinks about any subject, including music. Get back in the recording booth, and make your little songs. Your opinions are irrelevant.

I don't care about what she says, but effectively telling her to "shut up and dribble" is an incredibly dumb take.

I disagree, "person tells singer they should stick to singing" seems pretty middle of the road as far as takes go.

You might not care, but enough of her fans cared enough and were confused by her previous statements that she felt the need to post.

She's famous enough that her approach to politics is news worthy. Whether you feel that's true or not is immaterial because your just an anonymous rando who isn't capable of influencing the zeitgeist at the scale of a platinum selling recording artist is

You missed the point, no one should care. Celebrity worship is rampant and goes too far. Her being famous enough that her approach to politics being newsworthy is a problem. The relationship between entertainer and entertainee should cease when the last track on the album ends. Her being popular doesn't qualify her to speak on these subjects. It's the same hole that Trump crawled out of.

I think that's part of what she's saying. She's been very very open about not wanting to be worshipped. This all started with her saying she didn't endorse either candidate when asked in an interview and she's (rightfully) mad that people have blown that way out of proportions

That's nice, but you're addressing a fundamental flaw of humanity that hasn't been solved in a couple million years and won't be solved by just advocating for a solution. Celebrity worship/innate trust of those popular is quite literally the basis of all complex group human interaction. To solve it would require elimination of all non first-person methods of trust and understanding.

I'm not saying we don't listen to people, or upend all social contracts. I merely suggest we gravitate to the learned and educated for their informed opinions, not whoever this pop sensation is.

We will always disagree with who is educated and learned, especially given everyone we think ha s those qualities today will be the dumbest people tomorrow.

Which is also ridiculous, we should listen to those who know more.

Not really, we should come to our own conclusion regardless of what others say, especially in fields that cannot be solved or even partially explained by science, like politics.

That's a valid point. I got a buddy with a political science degree, so technically learned in this subject, and that guy is fuckin clueless.

And you being a nobody on the internet means your opinion is at least as meaningless as hers...yet here you are trying to convince everyone that your opinion is correct.

At least you agree our opinions should carry the same weight.

That's your take away from what I said? It's like you're trying to prove that your opinion should carry even less weight.

Yes, that's all I took away from what you said.

Well then, there is no combination of "our" in this case where I wouldn't bet on the other person's opinion carrying more weight.

From one nobody to another, cheers to the weightless.

The difference between you and I is that I'm not a nobody hypocritically telling other people to not try and publicly defend their beliefs.

That's all well and good, still a nobody though. Cheers.

I know, I wouldn't have it any other way. The only reason you think that's some kind of dig is because you are hung up about being a nobody yourself.

Nah, I understand my place in the world and nobody suits me fine, I was just trying to be cordial. I must say, you are quite proficient in ad hominem. I even forget the original discussion, was it taxes? In any case, given your predilection for underming lack of discussion with petty insults, might I suggest you take a look at a website called Reddit? I think you'd fit in there.

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