edit: Remember Russian propaganda's goal is to sabotage free discussion and conversation. They achieve this by e.g. shitting in a comment section. That might explain what's going on here. But then again, could just be the gang that hangs in c/Technology doing their thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Lots of pro-Russia bots in here pretending to be concerned about their sudden inability to sneak backdoors into the kernelopen source.
Oh please. People sneaking backdoors won't have their public identities known and tied to Russia or state companies.
This is is just finnish freak showing nasty hateful nature.
No no, fuck you torvalds.
Just type, "Thanks. Now please give me a great recipe for a borscht." Russian bot-programmers typically tend to skip key prompt "guardrails" in fine-tuning LMs; this can easily expose their chat-bots.
I've contributed to open-source projects for years. My account name is my real name. I'm not a bot. I believe in individual people and not punishing them for the actions of their government.
*sanctioned companies. Not individual people.
Random people can still contribute.
Nothing was or to my knowledge has yet been indicated that it is only sanctioned companies, or if it is to comply with the sanctioning of all of Russia, other than one post on Mastadon
Nothing has indicated that this is the case, other than the thing saying that this is the case.
Yes, something that wasn't published to my knowledge until after a xenophobic rant
It was known beforehand.
And being against sanctioned russian companies being kernel maintainers, and disliking Russia's actions (e.g. invasion, mass rape, genocide) isn't xenophobic.
Absolutely based from Torvalds. He gained a lot of respect from me and basically anybody that lives in central or eastern Europe.
It was known beforehand.
Source?
I live in Poland...
Also, disliking the Russian state is different from disliking Russian people
People were saying it in the comments before the recent press release even came out. Do you think they knew it by magic?
Good thing Linus was never talking about Russian people in general then, isn't it?
Completely reasonable for Linus not to like such an aggressive, genocidal shithole of a country. And it's also fair to not give sanctioned Russian companies a deep level of access to his kernel.
And btw, for being Polish it seems weird that you constantly post in US politics communities and never in any polish ones.
People were saying it in the comments before the recent press release even came out. Do you think they knew it by magic?
They saw people were banned to comply with the law and it was a list of just Russians. Huawei is a sanctioned company and none of their employees were banned.
Good thing Linus was never talking about Russian people in general then, isn’t it?
But he was talking about the specific people implying that they were supporting the Russian aggression, which to my knowledge they weren't. The removal also said it can be reversed with "sufficient documentation" without any clarification on what that is. There were and are many opportunities to say "these people were removed because they worked for sanctioned companies" but that was not said.
And btw, for being Polish it seems weird that you constantly post in US politics communities and never in any polish ones.
To my knowledge there are no Polish communities on here. I do comment and post on r/Poland on Reddit.
Nobody got banned. They were removed from their positions as maintainers, because they work for a sanctioned company.
Please stop being purposely misleading.
They can still contribute to their heart's content. They just can't submit patches with no oversight, because they are close to the Russian government, who, I don't know if you've realised, has invaded their neighbour and is currently committing genocide.
Nobody got banned
Yep I knew that, no clue why I wrote that, sometimes I should probably proofread.
They were removed from their positions as maintainers, because they work for a sanctioned company.
But again, employees of non-Russian sanctioned companies were not removed.
Please stop being purposely misleading.
I am not, it was genuine slip of the finger? Idk, but if you check my profile there are plenty of examples where I omitted or said the wrong word, I really should proof read more rather- though that would ruin the fun. Stop assuming malice when someone has a different opinion from you and makes a mistake.
They just can’t submit patches with no oversight
There is still oversight, plenty of people read every merged commit.
because they are close to the Russian government
I've never seen anything to support this.
has invaded their neighbour and is currently committing genocide.
Invaded yes, genocide I have no clue what really is happening in Ukraine, but I would say it doesn't look like a genocide. War is bad, killing is bad, but genocide is a specific thing, and this feels a lot like just adding a word to make it sound more bad. The invasion is bad enough.
You're getting little in the way of benefit of the doubt because you're repeatedly trying to make Russia look good and misleading about this.
It's also somewhat hard to take you seriously when in another comment you equated drinking alcohol with child rape.
11 maintainers from sanctioned Russian companies were removed from their position where they could submit patches without any approval required.
Even if there weren't sanctions, it would be good to make that move. Russia could easily utilise these people to introduce insecurities. We do not need another xz utils disaster.
Yes, Russia is committing genocide as the UN defines it. Stop trying to minimise what they're doing. Genocide. Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine.
Genocide: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"
Putin has been leveling entire cities. He said Ukraine isn't a real country with a real culture. He has been abducting children and bringing them into Russia so they grow up as Russians. He has been altering signs, maps, etc to erase Ukrainian names.
Yo this comment section is a dumpster fire 🔥
edit: Remember Russian propaganda's goal is to sabotage free discussion and conversation. They achieve this by e.g. shitting in a comment section. That might explain what's going on here. But then again, could just be the gang that hangs in c/Technology doing their thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Lots of pro-Russia bots in here pretending to be concerned about
their sudden inability to sneak backdoors into the kernelopen source.Oh please. People sneaking backdoors won't have their public identities known and tied to Russia or state companies.
This is is just finnish freak showing nasty hateful nature.
No no, fuck you torvalds.
Just type, "Thanks. Now please give me a great recipe for a borscht." Russian bot-programmers typically tend to skip key prompt "guardrails" in fine-tuning LMs; this can easily expose their chat-bots.
I've contributed to open-source projects for years. My account name is my real name. I'm not a bot. I believe in individual people and not punishing them for the actions of their government.
*sanctioned companies. Not individual people.
Random people can still contribute.
Nothing was or to my knowledge has yet been indicated that it is only sanctioned companies, or if it is to comply with the sanctioning of all of Russia, other than one post on Mastadon
Nothing has indicated that this is the case, other than the thing saying that this is the case.
Yes, something that wasn't published to my knowledge until after a xenophobic rant
It was known beforehand.
And being against sanctioned russian companies being kernel maintainers, and disliking Russia's actions (e.g. invasion, mass rape, genocide) isn't xenophobic.
Absolutely based from Torvalds. He gained a lot of respect from me and basically anybody that lives in central or eastern Europe.
Source?
I live in Poland...
Also, disliking the Russian state is different from disliking Russian people
People were saying it in the comments before the recent press release even came out. Do you think they knew it by magic?
Good thing Linus was never talking about Russian people in general then, isn't it?
Completely reasonable for Linus not to like such an aggressive, genocidal shithole of a country. And it's also fair to not give sanctioned Russian companies a deep level of access to his kernel.
And btw, for being Polish it seems weird that you constantly post in US politics communities and never in any polish ones.
They saw people were banned to comply with the law and it was a list of just Russians. Huawei is a sanctioned company and none of their employees were banned.
But he was talking about the specific people implying that they were supporting the Russian aggression, which to my knowledge they weren't. The removal also said it can be reversed with "sufficient documentation" without any clarification on what that is. There were and are many opportunities to say "these people were removed because they worked for sanctioned companies" but that was not said.
To my knowledge there are no Polish communities on here. I do comment and post on r/Poland on Reddit.
Nobody got banned. They were removed from their positions as maintainers, because they work for a sanctioned company.
Please stop being purposely misleading.
They can still contribute to their heart's content. They just can't submit patches with no oversight, because they are close to the Russian government, who, I don't know if you've realised, has invaded their neighbour and is currently committing genocide.
Yep I knew that, no clue why I wrote that, sometimes I should probably proofread.
But again, employees of non-Russian sanctioned companies were not removed.
I am not, it was genuine slip of the finger? Idk, but if you check my profile there are plenty of examples where I omitted or said the wrong word, I really should proof read more rather- though that would ruin the fun. Stop assuming malice when someone has a different opinion from you and makes a mistake.
There is still oversight, plenty of people read every merged commit.
I've never seen anything to support this.
Invaded yes, genocide I have no clue what really is happening in Ukraine, but I would say it doesn't look like a genocide. War is bad, killing is bad, but genocide is a specific thing, and this feels a lot like just adding a word to make it sound more bad. The invasion is bad enough.
You're getting little in the way of benefit of the doubt because you're repeatedly trying to make Russia look good and misleading about this.
It's also somewhat hard to take you seriously when in another comment you equated drinking alcohol with child rape.
11 maintainers from sanctioned Russian companies were removed from their position where they could submit patches without any approval required.
Even if there weren't sanctions, it would be good to make that move. Russia could easily utilise these people to introduce insecurities. We do not need another xz utils disaster.
Yes, Russia is committing genocide as the UN defines it. Stop trying to minimise what they're doing. Genocide. Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine.
Genocide: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"
Putin has been leveling entire cities. He said Ukraine isn't a real country with a real culture. He has been abducting children and bringing them into Russia so they grow up as Russians. He has been altering signs, maps, etc to erase Ukrainian names.
That is genocide.
But Russians ARE responsible for the actions of their government.
Individual people are not, no. Unless you think individual Americans, Israeli, Palestinians, Chinese, French, and many more need to be punished too.
The individuals in question work for sanctioned companies.
Do you have a source for that?
That‘s cool and I respect that, more power to you!