Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination
I'm glad you found a church that doesn't teach the Bible.
I am pretty sure they do different stuff with the males than they would with a woman.
Do you think a movie with powerful enough propaganda could make you gay?
No?
Well then what gives you the ego to say that everyone else is so weak that they could be tricked, yet you are the strong one?
Seriously. That's the question. The fall of people. The powerful main character syndrome they have.
Ancient greeks in shambles.
Who cares who it was "truly" written and who cares if the word "homosexuality" isn't literally in the Bible? The King James Bible, which was written in 1622, is the most commonly-used English language Bible and it's unapologetically anti-gay (ironic, since James himself was gay).
And I call bullshit on the Leviticus part. Firstly because putting the young boy to death as well makes no sense and secondly because I would find it hard to believe that ancient Jews who had over 600 laws about what you shouldn't be doing were just fine with the gay stuff.
The King James Bible, which was written in 1622, is the most commonly-used English language Bible and it’s unapologetically anti-gay (ironic, since James himself was gay)
It was also a translation of the original Hebrew, which we're learning in recent years was full of errors.
putting the young boy to death as well makes no sense
Where...does it imply that in the text?
I would find it hard to believe that ancient Jews who had over 600 laws about what you shouldn’t be doing were just fine with the gay stuff.
It's absolutely possible, even if not necessarily true. Multiple historical accounts imply much of the anti-gay stuff was falsified or only in specific communities.
Where…does it imply that in the text?
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
So, again, if it's a man raping a child, why kill the child?
I think this is a dangerous rabbit hole to go down. The vast majority of religions cherry-pick from their religious texts. Arguing that Christians fundamentally can't be tolerant of gay people because of Leviticus is basically conceding them to hatred. It's also an argument frequently used by the right to spark hatred Western minority religions like Islam because the Qu'ran says a lot of messed up stuff like the Bible does.
There are Christian denominations that openly accept gay people and I don't think it's wise to claim they aren't "real" Christians because of a few passages from a text written by dozens if not hundreds of people that already contradicts itself repeatedly.
I'm sorry but I simply disagree. Hypocrisy needs to be called out and the absurdity of religion needs to be called out.
The fact that this guy's church is nice to gays does not make up for the hate and death religion has brought to the gay community.
I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of a church that's pro gay, while I also point out the evil of churches that are anti gay.
I don't have to pick the lesser of two evils becuase they are both evil, lying and manipulative.
Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination
I'm glad you found a church that doesn't teach the Bible.
I am pretty sure they do different stuff with the males than they would with a woman.
Do you think a movie with powerful enough propaganda could make you gay?
No?
Well then what gives you the ego to say that everyone else is so weak that they could be tricked, yet you are the strong one?
Seriously. That's the question. The fall of people. The powerful main character syndrome they have.
Ancient greeks in shambles.
Who cares who it was "truly" written and who cares if the word "homosexuality" isn't literally in the Bible? The King James Bible, which was written in 1622, is the most commonly-used English language Bible and it's unapologetically anti-gay (ironic, since James himself was gay).
And I call bullshit on the Leviticus part. Firstly because putting the young boy to death as well makes no sense and secondly because I would find it hard to believe that ancient Jews who had over 600 laws about what you shouldn't be doing were just fine with the gay stuff.
It was also a translation of the original Hebrew, which we're learning in recent years was full of errors.
Where...does it imply that in the text?
It's absolutely possible, even if not necessarily true. Multiple historical accounts imply much of the anti-gay stuff was falsified or only in specific communities.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
So, again, if it's a man raping a child, why kill the child?
I think this is a dangerous rabbit hole to go down. The vast majority of religions cherry-pick from their religious texts. Arguing that Christians fundamentally can't be tolerant of gay people because of Leviticus is basically conceding them to hatred. It's also an argument frequently used by the right to spark hatred Western minority religions like Islam because the Qu'ran says a lot of messed up stuff like the Bible does.
There are Christian denominations that openly accept gay people and I don't think it's wise to claim they aren't "real" Christians because of a few passages from a text written by dozens if not hundreds of people that already contradicts itself repeatedly.
I'm sorry but I simply disagree. Hypocrisy needs to be called out and the absurdity of religion needs to be called out.
The fact that this guy's church is nice to gays does not make up for the hate and death religion has brought to the gay community.
I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of a church that's pro gay, while I also point out the evil of churches that are anti gay.
I don't have to pick the lesser of two evils becuase they are both evil, lying and manipulative.