I'm not super familiar with torrent seeding, but from a layman's perspective I'm really curious–how do you use so much data? My internet provider yells at me if I go over a 1.5 terabytes, I can't imagine streaming normally for example while also uploading, or is this over a very long period of time like decades?
Sorry if this is a silly question
Unlimited Internet is a thing now, I pay $50 a month for 5G home Internet. I'm guessing you have one of those dinosaur fiber internet where a technician has to come to your house to install internet.
Unlimited Internet is a thing now
In most parts of the world, home Internet has never been limited tbh. This is mostly a North American thing.
I’m guessing you have one of those dinosaur fiber internet where a technician has to come to your house to install internet
But fiber is much less likely to be limited than 4G or 5G? It's also not affected by weather, so you don't get random drops.
There are definitely bad ISPs out there providing capped fiber, but fiber itself is significantly superior to 5G if you want a stable and fast connection.
I used to have several outages per year with fiber internet. In the year and a half I've had 5G home Internet not a single outage. But you are able to get much higher speeds with fiber, so if you had some kind of business that needed like 10 gig speeds, fibers the best choice for that. But for home Internet 5G is much more superior in reliability, and fairness in pricing for the consumer.
Is 5G really that much more reliable than 4G? Because on 4G I often get spikes (of lengths between 2 seconds and several days) of low speeds, dropped packages, high latency, etc. Whereas I've never had an outage on fiber, nor has anyone else I know. Fiber is also not affected much by other peoples' usage.
I think fiber being shit is very much a regional thing, and mostly Northern American. It's the lack of competition. A good fiber service will outperform a good wireless service any day of the week. And it can be done on the cheap too, if there's competition. Romanians get gigabit fiber for like 8 euros a month and 300 mbps is the minimum speed offered I believe. The key is that you can't let a single ISP own the entire network in an area. Should be government-owned ideally.
5G is super fast, and wow you Romanians are lucky. But here in America ISPs are grinches who charge you 49.99 for the first year and then increase your price to $80, which is a whole 60% mark-up. So before 5G home Internet was a thing, you only had one provider in the area you lived, and this lack of competition basically allowed them to price gouge us over the years till our bill got to $220 for 100mb. 5G was truly a life saver for my families budget. And you are right about cable Internet being more performant, but 5G did introduce some very much needed competition in the telecommunications space.
I'm not Romanian actually, it was an example of what fiber can be when your government doesn't let monopolies happen.
I'm glad 5G works for you. Here in Estonia it's a lot more expensive than fiber and fiber itself is significantly overpriced (100 mbps being like 27 eur a month, unlimited cellular data more like 50 and that comes with no guarantees of speed or even availability).
I have what is available in my neighborhood, I do believe it's "dinosaur fiber optic" lines. And I haven't heard of a 5g connection without data caps where I live either (USA). At least not at any price point I can afford, certainly not 50$!
I have heard most other countries get way better internet than USA, though. But where I live it's Xfinity, century link, satellite Internet, or through a cell phone plan and they're all capped and leave some to be desired speed wise. I don't even live in the sticks or anything!
Im in the U.S as well, T-Mobile with unlimited 5G home Internet is $50 a month with no commitment. I've used hundreds of GB's per month with 0 cap or slow downs.
Zero slow downs even?? How does it do with upload speed? I stream
It uses a cellular connection for your home internet, so it's limited to whatever the speed of T-Mobile 5G is near you, and unless you live in an area of perfect reception it probably won't be great for streaming.
The trick in my area is my ISP is a crown corporation that competes with the privately owned ISPs. They don’t give a crap what you do(as long as it’s not too illegal or damaging their service), the standard on their fiber is upload speeds are 1/2 the download speed and you can pay an extra $10/month for symmetrical. I put it to the test once as I was testing online backuo software. GDrive has a limit of 750 GB/day uploaded data, and I did that consistently for a couple months straight(IIRC that was pretty close to maxing my upstream at that time). Never heard a peep.
Telia internet, Lithuania. 19,90€ per month, unlimited.
940mbps down & 580mbps up. Unlimited internet, fiber. Telia is known as trusted company that does not care about torrents and most importantly - never throttles or provides lower speeds. This ISP delivers what is promised. <3
Also it's Jellyfin&friends (radarr/sonarr stuff), so it's all automated. Nearly 40TB of storage in raid5 and automatically downloads movies and some tv shows. And in 4k:) sometimes 100gb per movie.
I pay Comcast an extra $30 a month for unlimited data. I use about 4-5TB a month with torrenting and Plex users watching stuff remotely.
Just get a seedbox. No reason to use your own bandwidth or have torrent traffic on your own ISP. I just use bytehost and it’s also hosting my plex server. I’ve also used seedhost.eu for a long time without issue but that’s seedbox only (no extra apps like plex or sonar etc)
I have never heard of a seed box!! I gotta admit, the concept is confusing to me off the bat, I'm going to have to research a bit. I don't really understand how it's not my ISP even though I'm using it for Internet, how strange. It seems very in depth and kindaaaaa scary, I'm not super technical but willing to learn! Thanks for mentioning
It’s just a remote server you rent that has either a web interface for a torrent client and/or the ability to shell into your instance and use a terminal based solution. You tell the remote server to handle the torrent. It downloads it to the server and also seeds for you. Then if you need the file on your home machine, you can grab it via ftp sftp https wget whatever way you want. To your ISP it’s not torrent traffic and even better, you can vpn to tunnel or use baked in means to make this transaction encrypted. In short, you can seed forever without impacting your own internet and you can keep your actions relatively secure and private as compared to opening a home machine up and letting loose.
I'm not super familiar with torrent seeding, but from a layman's perspective I'm really curious–how do you use so much data? My internet provider yells at me if I go over a 1.5 terabytes, I can't imagine streaming normally for example while also uploading, or is this over a very long period of time like decades?
Sorry if this is a silly question
Unlimited Internet is a thing now, I pay $50 a month for 5G home Internet. I'm guessing you have one of those dinosaur fiber internet where a technician has to come to your house to install internet.
In most parts of the world, home Internet has never been limited tbh. This is mostly a North American thing.
But fiber is much less likely to be limited than 4G or 5G? It's also not affected by weather, so you don't get random drops.
There are definitely bad ISPs out there providing capped fiber, but fiber itself is significantly superior to 5G if you want a stable and fast connection.
I used to have several outages per year with fiber internet. In the year and a half I've had 5G home Internet not a single outage. But you are able to get much higher speeds with fiber, so if you had some kind of business that needed like 10 gig speeds, fibers the best choice for that. But for home Internet 5G is much more superior in reliability, and fairness in pricing for the consumer.
Is 5G really that much more reliable than 4G? Because on 4G I often get spikes (of lengths between 2 seconds and several days) of low speeds, dropped packages, high latency, etc. Whereas I've never had an outage on fiber, nor has anyone else I know. Fiber is also not affected much by other peoples' usage.
I think fiber being shit is very much a regional thing, and mostly Northern American. It's the lack of competition. A good fiber service will outperform a good wireless service any day of the week. And it can be done on the cheap too, if there's competition. Romanians get gigabit fiber for like 8 euros a month and 300 mbps is the minimum speed offered I believe. The key is that you can't let a single ISP own the entire network in an area. Should be government-owned ideally.
5G is super fast, and wow you Romanians are lucky. But here in America ISPs are grinches who charge you 49.99 for the first year and then increase your price to $80, which is a whole 60% mark-up. So before 5G home Internet was a thing, you only had one provider in the area you lived, and this lack of competition basically allowed them to price gouge us over the years till our bill got to $220 for 100mb. 5G was truly a life saver for my families budget. And you are right about cable Internet being more performant, but 5G did introduce some very much needed competition in the telecommunications space.
I'm not Romanian actually, it was an example of what fiber can be when your government doesn't let monopolies happen.
I'm glad 5G works for you. Here in Estonia it's a lot more expensive than fiber and fiber itself is significantly overpriced (100 mbps being like 27 eur a month, unlimited cellular data more like 50 and that comes with no guarantees of speed or even availability).
I have what is available in my neighborhood, I do believe it's "dinosaur fiber optic" lines. And I haven't heard of a 5g connection without data caps where I live either (USA). At least not at any price point I can afford, certainly not 50$!
I have heard most other countries get way better internet than USA, though. But where I live it's Xfinity, century link, satellite Internet, or through a cell phone plan and they're all capped and leave some to be desired speed wise. I don't even live in the sticks or anything!
Im in the U.S as well, T-Mobile with unlimited 5G home Internet is $50 a month with no commitment. I've used hundreds of GB's per month with 0 cap or slow downs.
Zero slow downs even?? How does it do with upload speed? I stream
It uses a cellular connection for your home internet, so it's limited to whatever the speed of T-Mobile 5G is near you, and unless you live in an area of perfect reception it probably won't be great for streaming.
The trick in my area is my ISP is a crown corporation that competes with the privately owned ISPs. They don’t give a crap what you do(as long as it’s not too illegal or damaging their service), the standard on their fiber is upload speeds are 1/2 the download speed and you can pay an extra $10/month for symmetrical. I put it to the test once as I was testing online backuo software. GDrive has a limit of 750 GB/day uploaded data, and I did that consistently for a couple months straight(IIRC that was pretty close to maxing my upstream at that time). Never heard a peep.
Telia internet, Lithuania. 19,90€ per month, unlimited.
940mbps down & 580mbps up. Unlimited internet, fiber. Telia is known as trusted company that does not care about torrents and most importantly - never throttles or provides lower speeds. This ISP delivers what is promised. <3
Also it's Jellyfin&friends (radarr/sonarr stuff), so it's all automated. Nearly 40TB of storage in raid5 and automatically downloads movies and some tv shows. And in 4k:) sometimes 100gb per movie.
I pay Comcast an extra $30 a month for unlimited data. I use about 4-5TB a month with torrenting and Plex users watching stuff remotely.
Just get a seedbox. No reason to use your own bandwidth or have torrent traffic on your own ISP. I just use bytehost and it’s also hosting my plex server. I’ve also used seedhost.eu for a long time without issue but that’s seedbox only (no extra apps like plex or sonar etc)
I have never heard of a seed box!! I gotta admit, the concept is confusing to me off the bat, I'm going to have to research a bit. I don't really understand how it's not my ISP even though I'm using it for Internet, how strange. It seems very in depth and kindaaaaa scary, I'm not super technical but willing to learn! Thanks for mentioning
It’s just a remote server you rent that has either a web interface for a torrent client and/or the ability to shell into your instance and use a terminal based solution. You tell the remote server to handle the torrent. It downloads it to the server and also seeds for you. Then if you need the file on your home machine, you can grab it via ftp sftp https wget whatever way you want. To your ISP it’s not torrent traffic and even better, you can vpn to tunnel or use baked in means to make this transaction encrypted. In short, you can seed forever without impacting your own internet and you can keep your actions relatively secure and private as compared to opening a home machine up and letting loose.