Petition for lemmy.world to close registrations.

youarehurtingthefediverse@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.world – -37 points –

I just realized that none of the comments or posts I made in the last week from my instance are getting to lemmy.world.

I went to see if I my instance was defederated. No, still showing as connected.

I then went to see if I got blocked or banned. Nope, my username is not showing up in the modlog anywhere.

Is it because my instance is small? I guess not, because I can interact with people and communities from anywhere else just fine.

At the moment, the only plausible explanation I have is that lemmy.world is overwhelmed and dropping messages from smaller instances. They do however everything in their power to keep more users coming up.

Yeah, I get that they were being attacked. I can only imagine that getting DDOS'd is not fun, and worrying about the Schmoes on the smaller instances is not a top concern.

But even in the middle of these constant outages and attacks, the lemmy.world admins are still keeping registrations open? Why? Wouldn't it be better if they encouraged the users to move out of the instance to reduce the load? Isn't the whole point of decentralized technologies to be, you know, decentralized?

I shouldn't have to come here, create an account and make things even more centralized just so that I can tell people that this attitude is hurting the fediverse.

I wouldn't be so pissed at this if it weren't for the fact that some many communities were created here and is making this particular instance a crucial part of the fediverse, but the admins seems to be more worried about getting their user count up than the health of the overall system.

Please, admins, the more you go with this unstable federation and open registrations, the more of an incentive you are creating to centralize this further here. Help the fediverse and help yourselves. Close down registrations and focus on ensuring that everyone can access the communities that are being formed here.

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I feel like picking your first instance is not as important as you make it out to be here.

It's similar to registering on a web site, and all these decisions you talk about sound like you are choosing a partner for life. Is she responsible? Will she take care of the children?

It really isn't the end of the world if you pick a small instance and you don't like it, I promise.

There are tools out to help you (at least partly) migrate your account. It won't migrate your posts and comments but it will migrate your subscriptions.

https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

Also !syncforlemmy@lemmy.world is working on implementing this feature.

Yeah i know, I think it's very good that it's coming in the clients soon. Us technical folks can run command line utilities for this but probably a few users would run into issues with those.

Yeah it's command line and python so definitely not suited for everyone. It's why I point out that the Sync dev is working in it. All of it is just growing pains..

lol your instance is considered "Compromised" from totalvirus and malwarebytes.

Can you send me a link? That sounds weird. :)

Your post made me curious so I scanned it with a number of tools:

https://www.urlvoid.com/scan/lemmy.today/

https://transparencyreport.google.com/safe-browsing/search?url=lemmy.today

https://sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/lemmy.today

Looks fine?

The first url says directly Found: 1 from fortinet. Could be false positive. But still weird.

Hmm it didn't a minute ago.

That's weird. Probably a false positive but will ask the instance owner.

They could probably ask them to remove the false positive.

If I had to guess, they saw exploding-heads.com and flagged it or something. One user from there posted comments on lemmy.today where he had that link. And that instance seems blocked by lemmy.world and others.

Some other guy said they are trolls but I don't know anything about them.

Im the instance owner of lemmy.today. I contacted fortinet about this and will share their response when it comes.

The instance is running latest version of the default lemmy software on a rented server by Hetzner, so Im very curious what they say about this. There is nothing else on it. :)

Could be that the IP you are using was used for something else before.. Before it was thrown back in the pool and assigned to you.

LW is also hosted at Hetzner btw.

Could be but there was a button at the top of the scanning site where I could push to make a fresh scan. And still it shows up as phishing.

Very mysterious but it will be interesting to find out why...

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So I'm going to push back against your response here pretty hard.

First, I'm not talking about myself, I'm trying to understand general user behaviour ... so going ad hominem here or presuming I'm projecting my own problems isn't productive or useful.

Second ... "it isn't that hard" is, IMO, the mantra of someone choosing not to understand the users, which can become a pretty toxic behaviour or perspective.

You state ...

picking your first instance is not as important as you make it out to be here

(emphasis mine)

The pertinent questions here are:

  • How is a new user supposed to know that?
  • Where has such information been provided?
  • How clearly and easily discoverable is that information?
  • How convincing and comprehensible is that information for a newcomer?
  • How much does digesting this information ultimately contribute to the load of signing up for lemmy such that it ultimately doesn't alter the fact that picking an instance, or learning that it doesn't matter which instance you pick, is friction that is easy to bypass by simply picking the big central instance?

If you were trying to help me ... thanks ... but I wasn't talking about me ... rather the generic "new user".

And none of what you say about it being not as important doesn't really alter the reality that the friction of decentralisation makes (re-)centralisation around a big instance the path of least resistance and therefore the common choice for many newcomers.

I joined vlemmy and subscribed to a bunch of communities. What communities was I subscribed to? I'll never know because it's down forever

Doesn't sound like a huge personal loss to me but sure... You would have to resub to stuff that interests you. :)

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