New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times

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New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

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Tesla's are not safe.

Tesla on autopilot/FSD is almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven Tesla which even then is half as likely to end up in a accident compared to average car. You not liking Musk fortunelately doesn't change these facts.

In the 2nd quarter, we recorded one crash for every 4.41 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology (Autosteer and active safety features). For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology (no Autosteer and active safety features), we recorded one crash for every 1.2 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles.

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There is a bias here in the numbers. Teslas are expensive and not everyone is buying them. The lower accident rate can be explained by the different demographic driving the vehicle rather than Teslas being better. For exemple, younger people might be more likely to cause accident because of different factors and they are also less likely to buy a Tesla because they are so expensive. I dont have the numbers for this, but we should all be careful with the claims of Tesla on safety when they compared themself to the global average.

The biggest bias is that the data comes from Tesla. Do you think they are going to release something that makes them look bad?

Sure. There are always multiple factors in play. However I'd still be willing to bet that there's nothing in Teslas that makes them inherently unsafe compared to other cars.

So Tesla says. There is no independent verification of this data. It could all be bullshit.

Perhaps. I'm sure you'll provide me with the independent data you're basing that "Teslas are not safe" claim on

So you take Tesla's word and believe it, but ask for proof for the contrary?

You're just a hypocrite.

You made the first comment: "Teslas aren't safe", without providing proof.

And now you're calling someone a hypocrite because he asks for data of exactly what you claimed, while you're redefining your first argument as "the contrary".

So, do you have proof that Tesla's aren't safe in comparison to other cars, or is it just your opinion?

We're literally having this discussion under a video where automatic braking should have kicked in, but didn't.

But you can't base a fact on one accident. Or even multiple. What if newspapers like to write especially about Tesla accidents to generate clicks?

Teslas seemingly have a lot of accidents, but without checking the statistics and comparing it to other manufacturers you wouldn't really know if the perceived truth is a fact or not.

You're right, but the automobile industy is too opaque to do this kind of study. Maybe the insurance companies have this data, but they.are not sharing it.

In the absence of such data we have to make do with what we have. What we are seeing are a lot of examples where Tesla's are clearly doing irrational things and failing miserably. Youtube is not full of Mercedes cars failing miserably, eventhough there are a lot more Mercedes cars on the road.

The data is widely available and has been provided to you several times in this thread. You just refuse to accept it because it goes against your prior beliefs.

A person clearly can't be reasoned out of a belief they weren't reasoned into.

There is no independently available data on which car has the most crashes per km driven.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Tesla model Y scored the highest possible score on IIHS crash test as well as 5 stars on Euro NCAP

Their other models have similar results. I believe Model X is the safest SUV ever made.

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More than just resulting in a 5-star rating, the data from NHTSA's testing shows that Model X has the lowest probability of injury of any SUV it has ever tested," Tesla said in a statement. "In fact, of all the cars NHTSA has ever tested, Model X's overall probability of injury was second only to Model S.

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Also might want to check this

EDIT2: Imagine downvoting the guy providing hard evidence and upvoting the fanatic making baseless claims backed by nothing

It's not hard to game benchmarks.

Or maybe you're so blinded by the hatred towards Musk that you can't even think straight and no evidence in the world could convince you otherwise?

You really should've checked the last link.

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almost 4 times less likely to be involved in a crash than a human driven

Not relevant at all here, when we are discussing occurences that seem so easily and obviously avoidable.

(But it's nice to see that the Fanboi team is awake now)

Tesla fails at basic safety in the most obvious and simple accidents (like this one or the car pileup at San Francisco tunnel).

We're talking about overall safety here. Even with 99.99% safety rate you're still getting 33000 accidents a year in the US alone. There's always going to be individual incidents to talk about

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