They're definitely gonna go after the wayback machine next, because what use is there in controlling social media and deleting what bothers them, if there's freely accessible records of it somewhere else?
The archive needs to be protected at all costs.
AGreed
The archive needs to be decentralized. It must become immortal by ascending into the network itself.
I wonder if and how wanting to protect the Wayback machine is compatible with the overall sentiment (on Lemmy) that people need all necessary means to protect their privacy. Wouldn't people who want that users can protect their privacy also be against the Wayback machine?
You can already ask the Internet Archive to take down a content if you can proof the content is yours (e.g. can't just buy an old domain and demand the internet archive to delete the archived contents put up by the past owners). People also regularly ask them to take down harmful contents as well.
(e.g. can’t just buy an old domain and demand the internet archive to delete the archived contents put up by the past owners)
This is false. My father owned a particular domain that transferred ownership to me. I was able to pull down stuff from prior to my ownership just fine without providing any evidence.
Wait, you just asked the Internet Archive to take down stuff, and they complied without asking for proof of ownership? This seems to run counter with their own guidelines.
No... I took down content from a previous owner. So you can absolutely buy an old domain and demand to take down old content.
I just pulled up the email. The only evidence I gave them is that I emailed them from the "contact webmaster" email address that was posted on the main site page (admin@domain.com).
They removed everything from their archive completely relating to both domains I was inquiring about. One being originally my fathers and that was transferred to me completely.
That's a bummer. Nissan can then buy nissan.com when it's expired (the owner died recently) and erase the old posts from the previous domain owner detailing their legal battle with Nissan for example.
This already happened but it wasn’t the automotive company that took it down, if you look at the page now it’s an advertisement for some “AI-driven” advertising thing
Seems so.
Not at all, because the Wayback machine only archives things that are published.
Although not necessarily published by the rights holder...
They're definitely gonna go after the wayback machine next, because what use is there in controlling social media and deleting what bothers them, if there's freely accessible records of it somewhere else?
The archive needs to be protected at all costs.
AGreed
The archive needs to be decentralized. It must become immortal by ascending into the network itself.
I wonder if and how wanting to protect the Wayback machine is compatible with the overall sentiment (on Lemmy) that people need all necessary means to protect their privacy. Wouldn't people who want that users can protect their privacy also be against the Wayback machine?
You can already ask the Internet Archive to take down a content if you can proof the content is yours (e.g. can't just buy an old domain and demand the internet archive to delete the archived contents put up by the past owners). People also regularly ask them to take down harmful contents as well.
This is false. My father owned a particular domain that transferred ownership to me. I was able to pull down stuff from prior to my ownership just fine without providing any evidence.
Wait, you just asked the Internet Archive to take down stuff, and they complied without asking for proof of ownership? This seems to run counter with their own guidelines.
No... I took down content from a previous owner. So you can absolutely buy an old domain and demand to take down old content.
I just pulled up the email. The only evidence I gave them is that I emailed them from the "contact webmaster" email address that was posted on the main site page (admin@domain.com).
They removed everything from their archive completely relating to both domains I was inquiring about. One being originally my fathers and that was transferred to me completely.
That's a bummer. Nissan can then buy nissan.com when it's expired (the owner died recently) and erase the old posts from the previous domain owner detailing their legal battle with Nissan for example.
This already happened but it wasn’t the automotive company that took it down, if you look at the page now it’s an advertisement for some “AI-driven” advertising thing
Seems so.
Not at all, because the Wayback machine only archives things that are published.
Although not necessarily published by the rights holder...
Oh good point.